Recent RMT/Leveling Bans/suspensions

[damus1]

lots of cheap stuff people do is still legal. charming merchants in OOT and wrecking seafuries / allizew far easier/faster than any other class can do them is pretty cheap

bards PBAEing while barely outside of melee range is cheap, and goes against the original devs 'intended use' more than just about anything else

I agree it was cheap, whether it was an exploit was kinda nebulous until galach said so, but I respect his decision and accepted the punishment

[cd288]

Originally Posted by damus1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lots of cheap stuff people do is still legal. charming merchants in OOT and wrecking seafuries / allizew far easier/faster than any other class can do them is pretty cheap

bards PBAEing while barely outside of melee range is cheap, and goes against the original devs 'intended use' more than just about anything else

I agree it was cheap, whether it was an exploit was kinda nebulous until galach said so, but I respect his decision and accepted the punishment

None of that comes close to exploiting something that respawns instantly so that you have a non-stop stream of EXP

[kaev]

Originally Posted by damus1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lots of cheap stuff people do is still legal. charming merchants in OOT and wrecking seafuries / allizew far easier/faster than any other class can do them is pretty cheap

bards PBAEing while barely outside of melee range is cheap, and goes against the original devs 'intended use' more than just about anything else

I agree it was cheap, whether it was an exploit was kinda nebulous until galach said so, but I respect his decision and accepted the punishment

why is it still allowed to charm vendors on p99 anyway? wasn't on live

[cd288]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why is it still allowed to charm vendors on p99 anyway? wasn't on live

Is there evidence of that? Or is it simply no one thought to do it back then in the early days of the game? A lot of this stuff people say “wasn’t on live” is just stuff that actually was possible to do on live but it wasn’t really done and is the product of 20 years of people trying everything in the game.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there evidence of that? Or is it simply no one thought to do it back then in the early days of the game? A lot of this stuff people say “wasn’t on live” is just stuff that actually was possible to do on live but it wasn’t really done and is the product of 20 years of people trying everything in the game.

There's a bug thread exploring that topic.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=357217

[Bardp1999]

If you like wasting money on a game play Raid Shadow Legends

[Donkey Hotay]

The bug forum is a tug-of-war between factions, as that thread neatly demonstrates. Dolalin has an agenda, so he submits weak anecdotal evidence in an attempt to persuade Nilbog to make the game "harder" while DMN is left playing rational critic, pointing out the evidence's weakness and supplying stronger evidence to the contrary. If the DMN-archetype tires of his effort, the other faction wins and the server gets customized so manchildren won't have to accept that they were shitters then and shitters now.

WoW private server and Classic players would destroy in-era players; I see no rational reason to believe in-era EQ players would fare any better against us. I sure as hell am a lot better now because information is ready to hand with exponetially less effort.

[kotton05]

You will never stop the black market.

Frankly rmt is Classic I don’t support it but don’t bat an eyelash at it. Been offered real money for my stuff and I can see how enticing a few thousand dollars seems over a pixel. If you’re broke it prolly seems like a gold mine.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You will never stop the black market.

Frankly rmt is Classic I don’t support it but don’t bat an eyelash at it. Been offered real money for my stuff and I can see how enticing a few thousand dollars seems over a pixel. If you’re broke it prolly seems like a gold mine.

True that, one of the regular guild mates sold his planar armor equipped human SK the week Kunark released for $800 on Ebay. Ebay characters, in era it was often retarded players who didn't know how to play the class since they jumped right to the end.

Actually kind of thought it was neat back in the day, you know, on computers and selling a character on Ebay. Just seemed like things adults would be doing but I never really gave it much thought.

I am primarily against it because of the standards of today. Some game designed revolve around the idea.

An exception is cool when it is an exception. A game that doesn't allow such things is an exception today, which is why P99 is pretty cool.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You will never stop the black market.

Frankly rmt is Classic I don’t support it but don’t bat an eyelash at it. Been offered real money for my stuff and I can see how enticing a few thousand dollars seems over a pixel. If you’re broke it prolly seems like a gold mine.

I go back and forth on it. Personally I generally don’t like it because I think it can ruin the in game experience since it arguably leads to people farming plat and certain drops a ton more. And also you have people buying characters on an MMO without ever playing them and having no idea what to do in the higher level content.

But then on the other hand on P99 you have so many pixel addicted people that the plat and loot farming goes on probably to the same extreme it would if RMT was allowed. And anyone buying a character has probably played EQ extensively and has played that class before so they know what they’re doing. So I probably wouldn’t get pissed if they allowed RMT for those reasons, but still I do think it’s kind of stupid to RMT in a game like EQ where the whole reason people like it is because of the grind and difficulty.