Two-Boxing

[Vraji]

Originally Posted by teekanc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's ok if you're only half the man everyone else is.

Not going to lie but that's a pretty f'ed up thing to say. Keyboard warrior eh?

[churchill]

I get that two-boxing is undesirable, but thats far less of a pain in the backside than not being able to play at the same time as my Mrs.

It's a month since 'applying' for the IP exemption, and still hasn't been done - frankly I'd prefer people 2box away than this 'fix' be in place.

[Slave]

Originally Posted by churchill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I get that two-boxing is undesirable, but thats far less of a pain in the backside than not being able to play at the same time as my Mrs.

It's a month since 'applying' for the IP exemption, and still hasn't been done - frankly I'd prefer people 2box away than this 'fix' be in place.

I really, really hear you on this. It was at least 3 weeks before we received our IP exemption and I felt every hour of it. I don't really know what else to say except hang in there. Did you do everything by the book?

Apart from that... no 2-boxing is basically is what makes this server have such a high population. It's the (mostly) Classic EverQuest that we remember. Grouping is all-important and there is an extremely active lower-level community.

[churchill]

Yeah did everything by the book, but no views and no replies.

That being said, whilst two-boxing is the big bad, I've noticed as I start grinding my way that zones like WC/EC just have twinks grouped up with a guildie powerlevelling them. I don't see how this 'defeats' two-boxing at all. The same behaviour is still taking place, I just don't have my wife to group with so its an adventure of soloing.

Sure there are some legit groups, but I think now I'm in the teens its becoming about the stage the powerlevel phenomenon kicks in.

Pretty lame.

At least I will finally be able to buy some decent gear soon to make it less crappy, but geez it would be nice if we could duo.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by churchill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've noticed as I start grinding my way that zones like WC/EC just have twinks grouped up with a guildie powerlevelling them. I don't see how this 'defeats' two-boxing at all.

There is a lot of that going on. I don't mind powerlevelling as long as its not affecting other groups in the area. For instance, if a PL group turns up in Mistmoore and starts pulling everything during the peak hours (which has happened to me and I have seen it going on while on alts) then its wrecking the area for other groups.

There is still a marked difference between some guy PLing a group at the orc camp in EC/Crushbone and permanently having a second character under your control. There's other servers on the emulator if you want to go and have a go at that and their populations aren't too shabby in some cases.

What people don't like is others getting an advantage which is understandable if you're just starting and there's casters running amuck in Froglok robes and shiny armors. Unfortunately the playing field isn't and never will be level - and depending how long you've been around on the server that's just how it is (and probably why there's some backing for wiping Red and making a 2nd Blue server).

Allowing boxing wouldn't change the server population much, you'll just have less people who are playing 1 character as boxers don't like grouping and the rest won't want the extra LFG time. I'd go as far to say that it would kill off the population in the 35-45 range where groups are already a bit more tricky to come by.

[Mxsilverhammer]

If you have a Smart phone you could tether your wifes computer to get that second IP, if i can do it in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness on a 1x network, i am sure you will be fine on a 3G or 4G

Originally Posted by churchill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah did everything by the book, but no views and no replies.

That being said, whilst two-boxing is the big bad, I've noticed as I start grinding my way that zones like WC/EC just have twinks grouped up with a guildie powerlevelling them. I don't see how this 'defeats' two-boxing at all. The same behaviour is still taking place, I just don't have my wife to group with so its an adventure of soloing.

Sure there are some legit groups, but I think now I'm in the teens its becoming about the stage the powerlevel phenomenon kicks in.

Pretty lame.

At least I will finally be able to buy some decent gear soon to make it less crappy, but geez it would be nice if we could duo.

Corpemen
17 Cleric

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Mxsilverhammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[FONT="Century Gothic"]If you have a Smart phone you could tether your wifes computer to get that second IP...

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[Mxsilverhammer]

I imagine you could be caught, it would be about observation, a judgment call, but we are not talking about two boxing, he is on a waiting list (or was) for 4 weeks, I am just suggesting an alternative to IP Exemption for the purpose of Legitimate Home play with real people. I believe he just wanted to play with the wife at the same time which is ok, so nothing really to get caught doing.

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Corpemen
17 Cleric

[Kevlar]

I never really understood the totalitarian stance against 2-boxing here. EQ is not a solo friendly game, and on a server with low population, one that takes away even a smidgen of the noob friendliness of later expacs, its even more unfriendly here.

I can understand the part about how 2-boxers ruin games when taken to extremes, ala Sam Deathwalker, but that guy was nothing more than a sad joke. The fact is melee players are screwed on P1999 at the mercy of LFG and the charity of others. I don't know exactly what the server makeup is, but I bet a very large portion of it is mages, necros, and druids just because of the impossibility of soloing a melee. I tried a bard, the easiest melee class, and even that is a royal pain.

Most people who I played with on live who had a melee class boxed a shaman. Its just how it was. Shaman group very well with wars, sks, and monks. It didn't stop these guys from forming groups, it started the core of many groups, and if the group filled up the boxed shaman would just be boxed out of the group for extra heals or slows or whatever was needed while all the mains got xp.

With the IP exemption thing it would still keep down out of control boxing, you are only allowing one exemption per account, at least that is how I think it works. It would be a lot easier to form groups of 3 boxers than it would to solo a warrior to 60.

Just my 2cp on the issue.

[Namegen_Isterrible]

Originally Posted by Kevlar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never really understood the totalitarian stance against 2-boxing here. EQ is not a solo friendly game, and on a server with low population, one that takes away even a smidgen of the noob friendliness of later expacs, its even more unfriendly here.

Noobs to EQ don't know how to play a single class in the game well, let alone how to play multiple classes well together at the same time. So how exactly would boxing help noobs?