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Old 04-07-2020, 05:41 PM
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What classic EQ looks like:

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What EQ looks like Blake-style, when you add lots of unclassic mechanisms instead of playing EQ:

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Old 04-07-2020, 05:51 PM
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Ok, Boomer.

The perma has for sure broke your brain, Loramin. You acting like it was me who suggested making a list for those camps.

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Apologies: I misunderstood.

The bulk of the conversation has been about my "/list 2.0" idea, so I took your latter paragraphs to be about it also (in my defense, so did Blake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]). I guess they weren't, which was a misunderstanding on my part, and again I apologize.
I knew what he was referring to. You responded to him like you did.
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Old 04-07-2020, 05:57 PM
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As I recall (and I've tried to find this post, but failed), I did endorse a /list-like idea early on ... I think even prior even to Green being announced. However, the decision to apply the idea to legacy camps was not at all mine (AFAIK it was the staff's).

Either way, who cares who suggested what? Let's talk about what would be best/most classic. Simple question: back in 1999 did people ...
  • wait their turn to get pixels?
  • rely on multiple attempts over time (ie. patience and luck) to get pixels?
  • click AFK checks all day long, and then either not sleep or pass their account over to someone else to get pixels?

One of those three is not classic. We give the best pixels in the game out in the least classic way, and all I'm saying is "let's be more classic".
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Old 04-07-2020, 05:59 PM
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As I recall (and I've tried to find this post, but failed), I did endorse a /list-like idea early on, prior even to Green being announced IIRC. However, the decision to apply the idea to legacy camps was not at all mine (AFAIK it was the staff's).

Either way, who cares who suggested what? Simple question: back in 1999 did people ...
  • wait their turn to get pixels?
  • rely on patience and luck to get pixels?
  • click AFK checks all day long, and then either not sleep or pass their account over to someone else?

One of those three is not classic.
You do, fool. You just posted "my version" of EQ is WOW after you just got accused by the guy you misunderstood for supporting WoW-like features. Instead of list removal and playing the game you have proposed further list related things that are anti-eq.. while talking about how pro Eq you are and what is Everquest-y.

Are you trying to topsy-turvy?
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:02 PM
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You do, fool. You just posted "my version" of EQ is WOW after you just got accused by the guy you misunderstood for supporting WoW-like features. Instead of list removal and playing the game you have proposed further list related things that are anti-eq.. while talking about how pro Eq you are and what is Everquest-y.
You posted a pic about ice blowing up my skirt; my (also image-based) reply was on the same level of seriousness [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But the core idea remains. I listed three things, and you seem to be avoiding acknowledging which one isn't classic, evan as you quote them.

Look, /list 0.0 (uber guild hogs all the best pixels by locking down camps) isn't classic. /list 1.0 (people who don't sleep hog all the pixels) isn't classic. Can we agree on that much?

If so, wouldn't you agree that there's a potential for a better/more classic /list 2.0?
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:05 PM
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You posted a pic about ice blowing up my skirt; my (also image-based) reply was on the same level of seriousness [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
haha! and no, you weren't.

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But the core idea remains. I listed three things, and you seem to be avoiding telling me which one isn't classic.
Bah. What is this jeopardy. You bringing your bridge riddles in here after proposing BS
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:07 PM
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Look, /list 0.0 (uber guild hogs all the best pixels by locking down camps) isn't classic. /list 1.0 (people who don't sleep hog all the pixels) isn't classic. Can we agree on that much?
oh my fucking word.. Loramin the players are not classic. Your wiki is not classic either.. I can't answer you straight because you are not asking straight questions.
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:15 PM
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oh my fucking word.. Loramin the players are not classic. Your wiki is not classic either.. I can't answer you straight because you are not asking straight questions.
Interesting fact, that actually falls into red herring territory, like the demand for 100% absolute certainty.

One time someone was telling me how unnatural a shoe was for running and I was like, then run barefoot without shoes. Don't lift with a barbell, don't be under a roof, etc etc.

You can't actually have classic. It's impossible, and everyone knows it.

The closest thing you can get is to give this server we're playing to a group of people who have never played the game in the first place, with minimal internet access or a wiki that you burn to the ground, and ban anyone who has played before. Then you have a classic server for a bunch of folks who its all new for!

Using the fact that we can't have absolute classic though would just be considered a red herring in a discussion anymore.
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:11 PM
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Wiki is mostly classic; we had Caster's Realm and Allakhazam. And of course, the players will never be classic, and we can never have 1999 back again without a time machine. What we're talking about is degrees: trying to be more or less classic.

So I'll make it very, very "straight" for you. Did players in 1999 ...
  • wait their turn to get pixels?
  • rely on multiple attempts over time (ie. patience and luck) to get pixels?
  • give certain pixels over to certain guilds, which locked them down 24/7?
  • click AFK checks all day long, and then either not sleep or pass their account over to someone else to get pixels?

Should be an easy question to answer if you know classic EQ.
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Old 04-07-2020, 06:13 PM
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Wiki is mostly classic; we had Caster's Realm and Allakhazam.

But I'll make it very, very straight for you. Did players in 1999 ...
  • wait their turn to get pixels?
  • rely on multiple attempts over time (ie. patience and luck) to get pixels?
  • give certain pixels over to certain guilds, which locked them down 24/7?
  • click AFK checks all day long, and then either not sleep or pass their account over to someone else to get pixels?

Should be an easy question to answer if you know classic EQ.
Hogwash! it's compiled all in one spot and there are little to any guesses, its fact for the most part.

Lists are not classic outside of a group having one for replacement members. That was not GM enforced or any coding done to add anything to the game. You kept a list with a pen and paper because we were not all morons yet that can't tie our shoes or wipe our own asses.
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