Poll: Reopen Teal (Digital Social Distancing)

[jerryR]

Originally Posted by turbosilk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Changing camping policy to require sharing. Whoever has the camp has to invite others wanting in the camp until the group is full. This will establish the classic experience.

That would be a nightmare of undesirable people griefing you using an actual policy. Imagine getting in a dispute with someone and having them follow you camp to camp forcing you to group with them. Or even just someone who isnt class appropriate for your composition as a group. The policy exceptions would have to be so nuanced that it would render the entire thing untenable

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by jerryR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That would be a nightmare of undesirable people griefing you using an actual policy. Imagine getting in a dispute with someone and having them follow you camp to camp forcing you to group with them. Or even just someone who isnt class appropriate for your composition as a group. The policy exceptions would have to be so nuanced that it would render the entire thing untenable

I'm not sure. If someone can solo it then it doesn't matter who else joins. This could be implemented in select zones on a trial basis.

[jwaltz]

100% yes. Reopen Teal.

"This is classic" No, this is not how classic was.

[billwilliams]

Simple solution is to make any indoor magic/rare item require you to be there and grouped with 4+ people level appropriate for the zone. This would get rid of all the 46+-50s holding camps in places like Unrest,Befallen/HHK etc and actually move them to dungeons and group for items once the level 50s there can no longer hold camps solo.

This is how every single server indoor camp in live 1999-2001 worked WITHOUT gm intervention or any stated policy ALA common sense, no one sat at camps SOLO until they collected 5 cowls and 10 cords with a 20 person queue of more soloers behind them.

[jerryR]

And when the server splits like you want and some dungeons or mobs you cant get a group for because of low population - then how do you get your item? Revert it back?

Every problem you're try to fix you're creating 3 more

[billwilliams]

Loot would work the way it always has, the group agrees beforehand to free roll OR need before greed, everyone randoms, winner takes it per group consensus. If there is bullshit or dispute THIS is where the GM/Guide can step in and the only part they should ever enter into these player drama-fests.

[jerryR]

Originally Posted by billwilliams [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loot would work the way it always has, the group agrees beforehand to free roll OR need before greed, everyone randoms, winner takes it per group consensus. If there is bullshit or dispute THIS is where the GM/Guide can step in and the only part they should ever enter into these player drama-fests.

If I'm the only person in zone camping a mob for 3 hours solo and you forced yourself by policy I have to group with you - no way I'm giving loot to you before I get mine. And the second person would say the same to the 3rd. Essentially you still have a list but the added complication someone might ninja it or dispute rules. Versus me just holding camp tilI get item and leave.

[billwilliams]

Originally Posted by jerryR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I'm the only person in zone camping a mob for 3 hours solo and you forced yourself by policy I have to group with you - no way I'm giving loot to you before I get mine. And the second person would say the same to the 3rd. Essentially you still have a list but the added complication someone might ninja it or dispute rules. Versus me just holding camp tilI get item and leave.

You wouldn't be in a zone camping a mob solo for 3 hours anymore though because if the policy I am talking about was in the game from the start and established most popular item camps will have constant group or rotation of people going in and out.

You think the way you do because of the stupid broken camp policy that enables SOLOers to even have the mentality you do now to be so blind to any other point of view, even the one the game actually worked based on in live 1999-2001 servers for 30+ servers across the world.

[billwilliams]

That is not a situation that is going to happen, it wasn't an issue on Blue launch and that server only had 400 peak in its first 6+ months.

[billwilliams]

You clearly never played on live, this solo mentality is not normal, it never existed anywhere except these EMU servers with their broken and counter-intuitive play nice policy and rules.