Was Having Two Servers More Fun Than One?

[knucklehairs]

Is it possible to split the server and merge one zone for auctions?

[Tecmos Deception]

Some folks are just exaggerating to make themselves feel better about their opinion on the matter in the face of criticism, imo.

I voted same fun either way. I enjoy the crowded, busy feeling of the world with 1 server; this feels more like what I remember of live eq (groups leveling in all sorts of zones, and many zones having multiple groups, primarily). I made plat and farmed gear for alts and found my preferred exp spots open more often with 2 servers. I'm happy to fully enjoy p99 regardless of what the staff decide to do with it. If I knew how to, I'd even dig for info from classic era that would support the argument for multiple servers here.

[Zeboim]

I had a lot more fun before the merge. Walking into exp camps without a line, lists seeming reasonable, dragon pops not being giant clusterfucks of trains...

But my stages of mourning have progressed to acceptance that its never coming back.

[loramin]

Astuce99, you're making huge assumptions about "the other side". You're villainizing them, which makes it easy to turn your brain off (because "they're bad people and they're wrong because they're bad", so you don't have to think about their position).

But 24 people said post-merge was more fun for them: those people are not wrong.

They're also not all villains. McCoy is one of them, and he's the guy who gets his jollies off by rezzing strangers for free: there is not a nicer person on this server.

Maybe, just in this one thread, could we all try listening more, and imagining "the other side" as evil less?

[astuce999]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Astuce99, you're making huge assumptions about "the other side". You're villainizing them, which makes it easy to turn your brain off (because "they're bad people and they're wrong because they're bad", so you don't have to think about their position).

But 24 people said post-merge was more fun for them: those people are not wrong.

They're also not all villains. McCoy is one of them, and he's the guy who gets his jollies off by rezzing strangers for free: there is not a nicer person on this server.

Maybe, just in this one thread, could we all try listening more, and imagining the other side as evil less?

You're absolutely right, I am hyperbolic in my interpretation of their position. It is a tit-for-tat approach to match the "oh you guys only want ez pixels wah wah" that they project on us. For your sake, I will stop after this post.

I am absolutely certain that there are a lot of nice people on green right now. I mean, not everyone from Teal quit already, right? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rome didn't burn down in one night.

cheers,

Astuce

[loramin]

Asking people to listen is a little different than telling them to shut up ... but yeah, that is what I'm doing.

But you still never answered my question: what was the point of your post? You convinced NO ONE with it. You educated NO ONE. You made NO ONE feel better, or happier, or more positive in any way. As far as I can tell, it didn't even bring you any joy.

So then WHY did you make it? I'm not telling you to shut up, I'm just asking you to use your brain and consider why you did something.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Asking people to listen is a little different than telling them to shut up ... but yeah, that is what I'm doing.

But you still never answered my question: what was the point of your post? You convinced NO ONE with it. You educated NO ONE. You made NO ONE feel better, or happier, or more positive in any way. As far as I can tell, it didn't even bring you any joy.

So then WHY did you make it? I'm not telling you to shut up, I'm just asking you to use your brain and consider why you did something.

Lol why on earth do you care so much

[loramin]

To me, that sounds like you're asking (in your "answering my question with another question to avoid admitting what I'm trying to get you to admit" response) ... "why are you bothering to listen to and engage with this person who seems to have no interest in listening to or engaging with anyone else?"

And I'd answer that with: "because you're smart and I often respect what you write, so I genuinely believe you are capable of better."

We can all be bad at listening sometimes, and this forum truly amplifies it, which is why I have to fight just to have one thread out of eight trillion where people actually listen to each other instead of talking at/past each other.

[Ravager]

Kudos Loramin for Bush option.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Silverfalcon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now this doesn't make sense to me. You've been saying all along that the high populations on servers is part of what classic EQ is. So, by that logic you would think you would want to keep players playing the game not telling them goodbye. If the server population dies down then by the same token the "Classic EQ" you so dearly claim to want will by default not be there.

By the same token that statement by Nilbog was about the actual in game mechanics of EQ it had nothing to do with him saying "I don't care if anyone plays my game or not". All he was saying is that if the in game mechanics of the game bothered people he was not worried about losing some of them because he was trying to faithfully recreate the EQ classic game. I didn't see anything in that statement about wanting to have a certain population on the server. Which by his statement of players leaving he doesn't seem to care if the server level is 37 (red server) or 1000 (green server) he just wants to recreate the actual game play. So from that viewpoint it shouldn't matter if Green and Teal were separate.

Essentially you can't have it both ways. Either server population is important to capture the classic EQ feel. Or it is not important and therefore people can leave and you don't get to recreate the classic EQ feel.

I standby my statement if having to many servers is the issue just drop red and add Teal back. You can funnel the players from red into blue. Both Teal and Green had more players than either Blue or Green. There is only 39 players on red atm. Is it better to loose 100s of players because of a merge or keep hundreds of players instead of a dead server?

Originally Posted by Silverfalcon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a lot of love for something for not caring if it is being used and enjoyed. I mean by it's definition a MMORPG is designed for group play. You cannot even do end content without multiple groups in the classic game. One group on green currently could not drop Vox or Naggy.

Originally Posted by Silverfalcon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My point is...everyone has been saying the populations back in 1999 were much higher than what they are now currently on green. By definition that is not classic is it? If your whole argument is that having high population is part of classic EQ.

Originally Posted by Silverfalcon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also define fine and stable in relation to 1999 EQ server populations?

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