CORONAVIRUS Death Thread

[Trexller]

I wear a mask anytime i go to a public place. I do believe there is a new virus, I dont wanna catch it until they get better at treating it.

And really, why not? Especially when you can get masks as cool as mine!

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[Nirgon]

Lune you can wear your mask all you want since its so effective. You can hide in a basement until there's 0 reported cases of any positive corona virus tests. Everyone else doesn't have to.

[Patriam1066]

Ironically, the nations where people did simple things, like wear a mask, are now having to “be pounded into submission” quite less than we are!

really makes u think

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ironically, the nations where people did simple things, like wear a mask, are now having to “be pounded into submission” quite less than we are!

really makes u think

I didn't say masks won't help curb the spread of the virus, It needs to be curtailed for the sake of our betters. Think bigger.

What head of state of a real country has contracted and died?

What super rich person has contracted and died?

The reality is this virus is super treatable to ensure only the right people are taken out.

Think of the price tag on universal health care. It would cost trillions upon trillions. If you take out the elderly, the chronically ill, the immune compromised, then that price tag becomes more manageable.

[Raev]

Lune, are you aware of any studies that have attempted to measure a causal relation between a positive COVID DNA test and actual symptoms? As a scientist I am sure you know that one cannot simply divide deaths by positive tests due to sampling bias, which is why in March Business Insider can say that the global death rate was 5% globally, 11% in Italy, and 1.8% in the US in comparison to the flu at 0.1% while the July CDC Estimate is now 0.65%. Do you know how the CDC is deriving their estimate? They must be trying to correct somehow as it's lower than deaths / tests, but on the other hand motorcycle deaths are now caused by COVID and African livestock and fruits are testing positive so I think it would be hard to get good data.

There is so much noise out there that I'm not even trying to read it all and am just going with my gut feeling that COVID is mostly media panic with very little scientific rigor, that the death rate is likely much lower than 0.65%, and that under 1% is hardly a huge problem anyway. We all die someday and I personally prefer quality to quantity of life, while wearing masks turns us all into unemotional, faceless slaves who can't communicate with each other. John Waters says it well. That said, I would be open to changing my mind if a well designed study showed the CDC has somehow significantly underestimated the rate of death or major symptoms.

Also, JP has a bunch of really funny videos on COVID.

[GinnasP99]

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John Waters

This guy is woke af

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by GinnasP99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy is woke af

"That's what this project is all about" he says. One thing you can tell right away is when some wild-haired Mick starts organizing, here comes trouble. So him and his chuckling suit are challenging this tyranny as a project. Well good for them! Imagine being able to combine the personal anguish of official oppression with the satisfaction of striking a blow against the unprincipled King.

Here is a list of recent headlines from various sources:

• Sweden becomes an example of how not to handle COVID-19, CBS News
• Lack of Lockdown Increased COVID-19 Deaths in Sweden, U of V Newsroom
• Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale, New York Times
• Sweden Stayed Open And More People Died Of Covid-19, But The Real Reason May Be Something Darker, Forbes
• Sweden hoped herd immunity would curb COVID-19. Don’t do what we did. It’s not working. USA Today
• Sweden’s coronavirus death toll is now approaching zero, but experts are warning others not to hail it as a success, Business Insider
• Lack of COVID-19 Lockdown Increased Deaths in Sweden, Analysis Conclude, Virginia edu
• Sweden COVID-19 Deaths Linked to Failure to Lockdown as Country Prepares for Second Wave, Newsweek
• Sweden Tries Out a New Status: Pariah State, New York Times

Everyone is down on Sweden. That's the official line coming out of our overlords. We must hate Sweden because. Because...they never locked down! We must be locked down and they weren't and we just need to point out how bad they did. Look how bad they did!

Yes look:

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All those articles were written recently.

Look in the mirror! Don't look through the smoke!

[Lune]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"That's what this project is all about" he says. One thing you can tell right away is when some wild-haired Mick starts organizing, here comes trouble. So him and his chuckling suit are challenging this tyranny as a project. Well good for them! Imagine being able to combine the personal anguish of official oppression with the satisfaction of striking a blow against the unprincipled King.

Here is a list of recent headlines from various sources:

• Sweden becomes an example of how not to handle COVID-19, CBS News
• Lack of Lockdown Increased COVID-19 Deaths in Sweden, U of V Newsroom
• Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale, New York Times
• Sweden Stayed Open And More People Died Of Covid-19, But The Real Reason May Be Something Darker, Forbes
• Sweden hoped herd immunity would curb COVID-19. Don’t do what we did. It’s not working. USA Today
• Sweden’s coronavirus death toll is now approaching zero, but experts are warning others not to hail it as a success, Business Insider
• Lack of COVID-19 Lockdown Increased Deaths in Sweden, Analysis Conclude, Virginia edu
• Sweden COVID-19 Deaths Linked to Failure to Lockdown as Country Prepares for Second Wave, Newsweek
• Sweden Tries Out a New Status: Pariah State, New York Times

Everyone is down on Sweden. That's the official line coming out of our overlords. We must hate Sweden because. Because...they never locked down! We must be locked down and they weren't and we just need to point out how bad they did. Look how bad they did!

Yes look:

All those articles were written recently.

Look in the mirror! Don't look through the smoke!

You're misinterpreting this. Sweden eventually got their deaths under control like almost all wealthy countries except the United States, but at the cost of much higher death numbers, both in sheer numbers and per capita, than comparable countries.

For those too lazy to clack the lanks, Sweden has had 5,700 deaths with 10 mil population. Denmark 613 deaths 5 mil population, Norway 255 deaths 5 mil population, Finland 329 deaths 5 mil population. All suffered similar levels of economic damage.

[gherron]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For those too lazy to clack the lanks, Sweden has had 5,700 deaths with 10 mil population. Denmark 613 deaths 5 mil population, Norway 255 deaths 5 mil population, Finland 329 deaths 5 mil population. All suffered similar levels of economic damage.

No no please, do not provide factual evidence and research. Let the stupid reap what they sow.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're misinterpreting this.

I don't think so. I think you're misinterpreting the point I'm making.

In a normal world, the headlines would read like this:

"The UK has the highest deaths per capita, don't do what they did!"
"Don't emulate Spain!"
"Italy is suffering, don't let it happen here!"
"The Belgian covid disaster, what happened and how we can make sure it doesn't repeat in the US!"

That's in an ideal normal world, where media organizations don't do the bidding of their political masters.

That's because in the normal world, the facts look like this:

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These facts also exist in our Schrodinger's dimension, but they box they're in has been shot through with agenda, so who can really tell what's inside?

My point, just to be explicit, is that information is being manipulated to serve political ends to such a degree that we're approaching Goebbels, which is the second rung right underneath Stalin.

Please note that New York and New Jersey have over THREE TIMES the per capita rate that Sweden has and all three places took the greatest hit in the same place; the aged in the nursing homes.

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"New York covid disaster, if we only emulated Sweden!"
"Can New Jersey learn anything from Sweden?"

How about those headlines? I mean beyond helpful and also totally accurate. I need a link though cause these exist only in my head atm.

In the interest of not being misinterpreted further I'm not denying covid is a threat, not suggesting simple quarantine measures are ineffective, not suggesting anything to do with the efficacy of any countermeasures.

My point is that like any crisis, this one has been co-opted by people with an agenda. Unfortunately these people control vast swaths of the media, which is why people are given giant loads of bullshit in order to make them compliant and scared in order to achieve a very visible political end, which is the election of a Democrat regime in November.