CORONAVIRUS Death Thread

[Woke Locc]

Originally Posted by gherron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dare we say the American intellect “lags” behind the rest of the world where countries are starting to open up again?

not really. we invent all the medicine and they still talk Shit.

[gherron]

Originally Posted by Woke Locc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

not really. we invent all the medicine and they still talk Shit.

Vaccine is british: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-53469839

All the advancements in medical care that get made in the US are not for plebs. Like, they'd probably have to become meth druglords as they battle cancer or something like that.

Also, Thailand has better equipment, better medical care, and better costs than the US (but that's not saying much I guess).

https://www.nationmaster.com/country...th-care-system

[Snortles Chortles]

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[Bigsham]

Those things dont do anything galach, the only thing that does is ULV Fogging your workplace with a registered sanitizing agent like BNC-15 or bioesque / shockwave

[Patriam1066]

If there were a vaccine, do you think it would matter in the US? I’m guessing half the population would refuse to be inoculated

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there were a vaccine, do you think it would matter in the US? I’m guessing half the population would refuse to be inoculated

Why is that a problem for those that do choose to undertake the vaccination?

I mean, don't vaccines immunize one's self from infection? If so, then why does it matter if others choose to remain susceptible to the virus, as it literally can't affect you, or anyone else who chose to get vaccinated?

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is that a problem for those that do choose to undertake the vaccination?

I mean, don't vaccines immunize one's self from infection? If so, then why does it matter if others choose to remain susceptible to the virus, as it literally can't affect you, or anyone else who chose to get vaccinated?

I'm not an anti/pro "vaccer" or anything, but the situation is probably a bit more complicated than you might think. If human individuals are not vaccinated, what might happen is the virus infects someone but this virus mutates in this non-immunized host -- significantly enough that it is no longer be affected by the previous immunization.

Though somewhat different but along the same lines is the general reduction in doctors prescribing antibiotics, despite the fact they often work well and could serious improve a variety of situations patients might find themselves in, they can create resistant strains of bacteria, potentially rendering that very antibiotic useless.

[Gwaihir]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not an anti/pro "vaccer" or anything, but the situation is probably a bit more complicated than you might think. If human individuals are not vaccinated, what might happen is the virus infects someone but this virus mutates in this non-immunized host -- significantly enough that it is no longer be affected by the previous immunization.

Though somewhat different but along the same lines is the general reduction in doctors prescribing antibiotics, despite the fact they often work well and could serious improve a variety of situations patients might find themselves in, they can create resistant strains of bacteria, potentially rendering that very antibiotic useless.

This is fallacious thinking. First of all, there are already mutations extant so they will constantly be chasing their tail to create new vaccinations that target new mutations, and the research time is too lengthy to keep up with the mutations.

Second of all, the vaccines being researched are not your standard dead-bacteria vaccines designed to stimulate counter-antibody production, they are mRNA vaccinations that essentially alter your genome.

Third of all, Unless the populace was simultaneously vaccinated with a synchronized clock, gradual vaccination can not provide the safeguards against mutations detailed in your premise.


So, again, if vaccination is designed to immunize ones self against a known strain of the virus, and that is successful, then why is everyone else required to innoculate in order for your vaccination to be effective, and how do you propose the mechanics of a synchronized global innoculation program?

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is fallacious thinking. First of all, there are already mutations extant so they will constantly be chasing their tail to create new vaccinations that target new mutations, and the research time is too lengthy to keep up with the mutations.

Sure there are mutations already. The point is, have they mutated enough that the previous immunization is rendered obsolete?

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Second of all, the vaccines being researched are not your standard dead-bacteria vaccines designed to stimulate counter-antibody production, they are mRNA vaccinations that essentially alter your genome.

Modality of immunization doesn't really matter for what is being talked about here, though mrna might make it easier/quicker to address a new strain, it doesn't prevent a new strain from appearing.

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Third of all, Unless the populace was simultaneously vaccinated with a synchronized clock, gradual vaccination can not provide the safeguards against mutations detailed in your premise.

Not safe, safer.

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, again, if vaccination is designed to immunize ones self against a known strain of the virus, and that is successful, then why is everyone else required to innoculate in order for your vaccination to be effective, and how do you propose the mechanics of a synchronized global innoculation program?

The more people essentially incubating the virus/bacteria, the more likely that you eventually end up with a problematic mutant. It's really not that complicated.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by Gwaihir [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, don't vaccines immunize one's self from infection? If so, then why does it matter if others choose to remain susceptible to the virus, as it literally can't affect you, or anyone else who chose to get vaccinated?

This is how you know you literally know nothing about medicine. Just a drone salivating over facebook and reddit posts. You should probably read up on herd immunity and why it's important.