p1999 green endgame for casuals

[Siege]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ignore this guy, OP. The only way the situation is this bleak on green or teal is if you avoid having any friends or a good guild, purposely avoid using your brain to find available camps, don't understand that the only gear a wiz needs in classic to do well is like +60 int which is easy to obtain even without expensive items like GEBs, and think that classic EQ is going to spoonfeed you "fresh" content on a schedule like a modern MMO's raid patches.

It's not easy to obtain decent gear right now because prices are inflated and all of the decent camps are locked down during non-NEET hours. Kunark will probably alleviate these issues to a certain extent, but I suspect this will be a problem that will persist throughout Green/Teal's lifespan, especially after the merge.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Siege [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not easy to obtain decent gear right now because prices are inflated and all of the decent camps are locked down during non-NEET hours. Kunark will probably alleviate these issues to a certain extent, but I suspect this will be a problem that will persist throughout Green/Teal's lifespan, especially after the merge.

FBSS is perma camped even in Kunark.

welcome to Everquest.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Siege [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not easy to obtain decent gear right now because prices are inflated and all of the decent camps are locked down during non-NEET hours. Kunark will probably alleviate these issues to a certain extent, but I suspect this will be a problem that will persist throughout Green/Teal's lifespan, especially after the merge.

I disagree. I found it easy to obtain decent gear right now.

Playing maybe 3-5 hours a day, I've almost perfectly geared my sham already, and I didn't pick up more than a few pieces of gear that I have now before I hit level 49 about a month ago. It will take much, much less time going forward to get the planar/solro upgrades as they come available, short of drops off gods and dragons.

If you only play 1-2 hours a day through classic, you can still "complete" a character (again, short of literal BiS dragon loot) before Kunark drops and still have time to spare for alts or other play. I contend that your believing you should be able to reach that point even faster than that is out of line with the classic experience, not that the current sort of busy-ness at desirable camps is out of line with it.

[Anxarcule]

OP here - thanks for all the replies and inisghts. My foray into a wizard is my first time playing as a caster and while I am enjoying it, it isn't as seamless as the Monk was and downtime can be a bit much (lvl 17 at the moment). I think once I get self ports it'll be easy to hop to ecommons for clarity/sow and then port somewhere. That's my hope anyway.

Good to hear that there is a chance of me participating in raids even if I'm not a hardcore gamer.

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by Siege [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not easy to obtain decent gear right now because prices are inflated and all of the decent camps are locked down during non-NEET hours. Kunark will probably alleviate these issues to a certain extent, but I suspect this will be a problem that will persist throughout Green/Teal's lifespan, especially after the merge.

I'm at these camps regularly on Teal. I can confirm they are not all locked down during non-NEET hours. OP can most certainly form groups and camp these areas.

Play the game and upgrade vs plat grinding and tunnel quest. If the game is plat grinding and tunnel quest I don't understand the why of playing.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by turbosilk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Play the game and upgrade vs plat grinding and tunnel quest. If the game is plat grinding and tunnel quest I don't understand the why of playing.

I mean... Is there really such a huge difference between camping 2 molten cloaks, keeping 1, then selling the other to buy some other gear... and camping 1 molten cloak then going to camp the other gear directly? Or whatever item you're camping, whether fbss or GEBs or fine steel weapons?

Maybe sometimes you get boned on rng and by the time you see 1 molten cloak, you're ready to gtfo. But you also might get 2 back to back.

[Tecmos Deception]

I really don't understand what you guys who say you don't have anything to do, or can't find anything to do, are, well, doing. I log in every day and always have something to do that entertains me. Maybe I'm more easily entertained than you, but I doubt that fully explains things.

Camping items, checking out new corner of dungeons I'm not familiar with, buffing random noobs, dabbling with tradeskills, fooling around on alts. And that's stuff I can just log in and do solo, and that most classes can do solo. I also group with guildies here or there at camps like freeti or am, nameds in kedge, etc. Soon, fear drops and will definitely not be kept cleared so that "the little guys" can't get some drops.

I play a lot, and I won't be done doing all that stuff before hate, then won't be done with hate before solro, won't be done with classic before kunark, etc.


Seriously. How do you end up feeling like there's nothing to do? Are you playing a rogue without a guild and just turning on lfg and standing there silently wishing for an invite? Logging off at the hbc camp and being surprised when you log on and there's still 1 of 300-900 other people who wants that camp? Playing for 10 hours every day and then being confused about not having enough dragon kills to keep you busy? Lol.


Mali, grinding mobs for armor quests or waiting in line for hs/Seb key pieces or sitting afk for hours leading up to drusella spawn? Lol. If all of classic eq can't keep you happy, you sure as fuck will be bore out of your mind doing those things too.

[Malikail]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really don't understand what you guys who say you don't have anything to do, or can't find anything to do, are, well, doing. I log in every day and always have something to do that entertains me. Maybe I'm more easily entertained than you, but I doubt that fully explains things.

Camping items, checking out new corner of dungeons I'm not familiar with, buffing random noobs, dabbling with tradeskills, fooling around on alts. And that's stuff I can just log in and do solo, and that most classes can do solo. I also group with guildies here or there at camps like freeti or am, nameds in kedge, etc. Soon, fear drops and will definitely not be kept cleared so that "the little guys" can't get some drops.

I play a lot, and I won't be done doing all that stuff before hate, then won't be done with hate before solro, won't be done with classic before kunark, etc.


Seriously. How do you end up feeling like there's nothing to do? Are you playing a rogue without a guild and just turning on lfg and standing there silently wishing for an invite? Logging off at the hbc camp and being surprised when you log on and there's still 1 of 300-900 other people who wants that camp? Playing for 10 hours every day and then being confused about not having enough dragon kills to keep you busy? Lol.


Mali, grinding mobs for armor quests or waiting in line for hs/Seb key pieces or sitting afk for hours leading up to drusella spawn? Lol. If all of classic eq can't keep you happy, you sure as fuck will be bore out of your mind doing those things too.

I don't understand how you don't get this. I gain some benefit from farming those things that you say will make me bored I'm done farming everything that will even interest me in classic. Got to manastone got six boxes bunch of thex daggers one guise very little use for it cuz most of my characters are dark elves.

There's literally nothing left to do worth the time it takes to do. And I recognized that immediately that it was going to be this way. Don't go around acting like I don't have friends and I'm not in a guild I am in a damn big Guild. It's funny they disagreed with me they said the same things you did and now they're bored and back to playing on blue or not at all days go by and we don't even see them login anymore.

Maybe it's because I'm retired and have a lot more time on my hands in the winter than you do when it's cold so I really don't have much else to do while the kids were in school but the the game is still very very empty to what it will be after Sol to and kunark are released.

I think it's because happiness in human beings comes from making progress, being on the journey and progressing. We've hit a brick wall so we're unhappy, no surprise there.

Also I'd say were somewhat spoiled by Sony. They kept us reeling trying to keep up with new content because they released it so fast. I watched a guy play on povar for months before I started, In This Very era I probably didn't start until a month month-and-a-half before kunark came out. The most of that time he was miserable and his complaints probably sounded a lot like ours adding in the fact that plane of hate was so broken they could barely raid it. Bill through a couple of temper tantrums that I clearly remember over that zone. He was playing at work. Lol

[zodium]

if you like casting spells but don't like sitting on ass half the time, let me introduce you to the magic of troll shaman, a race/class that can solo basically anything wearing a set of banded and a fine steel spear while having half the downtime of any other caster after 24

[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by Anxarcule [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am enjoying the leveling experience, but I'm wondering if I'll ever get to achieve the really fun content that I remember way back from live with my limitations. As a wiz I feel likel I'll never be able to hold down camps for gear to sell for good pp or earn enough from port to afford the obscene prices I'm seeing for some items.

Part of this is just an issue of your perception of things. For one, not all valuable items drop from Lord/King/Efreeti difficult mobs. Mammoth Hide and Molten Cloaks, Impskin Gloves, Gatorscale Leggings...the list is pretty extensive of items you can farm easily that still sell for a reasonable amount. On top that, you have an advantage the other INT casters do not with your residual port revenue. Since we end at Velious, there will never be a point in time where porting is irrelevant...and as the world expands, the value of porting increases. This shouldn't be overlooked, because it offers you consistent income no matter how much time or effort you have available to devote to it. Only have 30 minutes to play? You'd never find a reasonable place to farm on any other INT class with that kind of time...but 30 minutes of porting can very easily earn you a few hundred plat, with absolutely no risk, and you can do it completely distracted or semi-afk. I take advantage of this all the time...whether it's porting while I'm doing things around the house, making dinner, or watching shows with the family. In those cases, I'd never be able to hold down Frenzy safely as an Enchanter, with a charmed pet to manage and timers to keep track of. However, as a Wizard I'm still making money even if I'm barely at the keyboard...and that's an asset in it's own right.

Originally Posted by Anxarcule [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe I was spoiled by red being less heavily camped or at least having camps be contestable by PvP that a PvE server isn't for me. I guess what I'm asking for, realistically speaking will I be able to participate in raids on a server like this at the endgame, or will things be locked down by top tier guilds that claim/flag things literally minutes after they pop?

As for this, you will easily be able to participate on raids. You could even argue that by attending a raid as a Wizard, you allow for your force to better contest the top guild because it's all about FTE and mobilization. The faster your raid force gets into position, the more likely your guild is to win the encounter. And the two most critical classes to mobilizing are Wizards and Druids. However, whereas Druids are sub-par additions after the mob has been engaged you are amazing burst DPS which you can never have too much of. On top of that, Druids are left begging for a ride along with everyone else when the target is in Hate or Sky. So don't be discouraged....you'll always have a place in any guild you join that intends to raid.