1 Guise in 24 hours? no manastone in 32 Hours

[vossiewulf]

Originally Posted by turbosilk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The time people spend camping could be spend farming plat to just buy the manastone. Problem solved.

That's mostly what I have done. Group, do something interesting that makes money, give it to someone who is willing to undergo torture by RPG for more plat.

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by waltjig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know you don’t have to play, right?

Of course. And I appreciate that the devs put their free time into something for all of us to enjoy. Rumors of RMT aside that is.

I'm just pointing out it is silly to use "it's classic" as a reason for something when so many things aren't classic. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy or appreciate p99.

[u_lock]

Random is random. People seem to forget that.

I camped both Manastone and Guise. It's most definitely unhealthy to do in a single sitting. Most people have friends or brothers play their character while they're sleeping, etc. I've seen 3 people get removed from lists because they eventually fell asleep and missed an AFK check.

I've seen no manastone drop in 30 hours (dude waited over 50 hours for his stone). I've also seen three drop in 14 hours.

Random is random.

[Enme]

Where is the post updating 4 guises dropped in 4 hours? Oh wait that’s not bitching

[aaezil]

P99 still uses an old crappy algorithmic psuedorandom number generator not a newfangled good PRNG that looks at external data to create the numbers.

The “pattern” of the p99 prng is indeed streaky and bad has been known for a long time.

[Grimgor]

The problem with this list system is it removes people's ability to camp something a little bit at a time over a long period of time and eventually get one.

It forces you to stay at the camp for days in a row. I'm simply not willing to do that.

[PabloEdvardo]

Originally Posted by Grimgor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with this list system is it removes people's ability to camp something a little bit at a time over a long period of time and eventually get one.

It forces you to stay at the camp for days in a row. I'm simply not willing to do that.

That's not even close to true, and quite the opposite.

With the streakiness of the drops, you are actually better off camping it with more cumulative hours, but spread over a greater amount of time.

e.g. if you camp at manastone, log in regularly throughout the week, play for say 4-6 hour shifts, you can eventually (statistically) get lucky where multiple will drop in the same 4-6 hour period, and you can get one.

It's the wanting to get the drop the same time / only time you /list that leads to 30+ hour camps.

[Natewest1987]

Originally Posted by PabloEdvardo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not even close to true, and quite the opposite.

With the streakiness of the drops, you are actually better off camping it with more cumulative hours, but spread over a greater amount of time.

e.g. if you camp at manastone, log in regularly throughout the week, play for say 4-6 hour shifts, you can eventually (statistically) get lucky where multiple will drop in the same 4-6 hour period, and you can get one.

It's the wanting to get the drop the same time / only time you /list that leads to 30+ hour camps.

Have not ever heard of anyone getting mana stone in this way on these servers

[jackd104]

Originally Posted by Grimgor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with this list system is it removes people's ability to camp something a little bit at a time over a long period of time and eventually get one.

It forces you to stay at the camp for days in a row. I'm simply not willing to do that.

An excellent summary of the key problem with the list system.

[listur]

So who's going to "/rand 1" 10k times and post the results?