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[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by Volsic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the vast majority of tone comes from technique.

I'm just saying I'm not trying to roll up on some gig going hard with my $25 first act bass and 5w 2-knob pocket amp

[Troy]

Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Big Satch always be sounding bad to the Cab, I watched that G3 summit shit he did awhile back and it near put me to sleep because it was like 4 hours of Hendrix covers and solo wars between Vai, Satriani and Malmsteen I couldn't feel any energy.

I dig all types of music to an extend (some shit is just intolerable but that's more the select song than the genre) but people that play nothing but extended solos that have some of the weakest riffs make me [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh, I don't care for too many of his songs either but the guy always has great tone no matter what. Same goes for pretty much every great player I've ever seen.

Not surprising that a bassist wouldn't care for someone like Satch though, the bassist (or drummer for that matter) never does anything interesting in his songs. I'm all for extended solos and 'shreddy' music in general whether it's Wooten, Malmsteen, Coltrane, Vivaldi, or this:

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[Troy]

Of course, embed fail. Direct link to poor audio but awesome playing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NXcx1sTpAY

[Troy]

Shorter and slightly more ridiculous one with better audio:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMouQdQwS3k

I have a violin too but I couldn't play that shit if I spent the rest of my life practicing.

[Troy]

I hate this forum. Now the original embed is showing up.

No wonder I rarely go to rantsnflames, no editing sucks.

[Loke]

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Mine goes to 11... /thread.

[Ozudin]

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[Ozudin]

and this...

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[Bodeanicus]

Originally Posted by Troy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good players will sound good on just about anything. I've seen a video of Joe Satriani playing some kid's plywood strat through a tiny starter amp, filmed with a cheap digital camera and then run through the horror of youtube audio processing. He still sounded great. Obviously there are exceptions, but gear in general doesn't matter at all. (Yes I still want to buy that $4000 amp though!)

This. Tone is subjective. If you've got it, it's in your hands. You can play nearly anything, and it'll sound like you. That said, there's some technically awesome players who have shit tone. Vai comes to mind. Back in the late 80's, everybody I knew wanted Ty Tabor's tone.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. Tone is subjective. If you've got it, it's in your hands. You can play nearly anything, and it'll sound like you. That said, there's some technically awesome players who have shit tone. Vai comes to mind. Back in the late 80's, everybody I knew wanted Ty Tabor's tone.

Dry tone yeah... Wet tone no.

Certain pick-ups, strings, head units, speakers etc. give off different tones when you modulate them. For example, I get a totally different tone when playing through a 2x15 than I do through a 4x10 because it moves bigger and lower sounds, if I use flatwounds over roundwounds I get a more rounded "damper" sound, if I use tube driven heads I get harder distortions and warmer tones.

Guitar players get a much thicker, aggressive tone when playing through bass cabs than actual guitar cabs is another example, when I change my tech around I'm really just moving around the wet tone to get a sound specific to the genre I play (I.E I want vintage bass units for stoner metal, high-gain processors for something more modern etc.)

So in essence...

Even if Troy played in the same manner as me, and we had the same technical level, technique and sensibilities, I would get a much dirtier, aggressive, bassy tone from my set up and he would get a far more clear and sharp sound from his...

So gear is important for tone