Item Recharging on Green/Teal

[bum3]

Originally Posted by Ligma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally I see rechargeables as an extra layer of abilities, like AA. Yeah, in a lot of situations it's really OP but so what?

Nerfing recharging won't even stop people from using mallets and root nets since they're so easy to get.

And still doesn't change that soulfire is stupidly powerful. Or donals BP for all of kunark.

Aye some of those things need to be equip cast only or class required.

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Originally Posted by Ligma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally I see rechargeables as an extra layer of abilities, like AA. Yeah, in a lot of situations it's really OP but so what?

So what? Well it goes against what this project supposedly stands for:
"Our goal is to restore the magic and difficulty of the original Everquest game, including the mechanics, interface, and challenges of Original Content, Kunark, and Velious. Project 1999 is the most popular and most accurate reincarnation of Old School Everquest."

If people weren't using item recharging much in classic and it's an exploit then it probably should be removed like it has already been done on Red. Clickies break the goal of restoring the difficulty of the original Everquest game if their widespread abuse wasn't present in classic EQ.

[Tecmos Deception]

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So what? Well it goes against what this project supposedly stands for:
"Our goal is to restore the magic and difficulty of the original Everquest game, including the mechanics, interface, and challenges of Original Content, Kunark, and Velious. Project 1999 is the most popular and most accurate reincarnation of Old School Everquest."

If people weren't using item recharging much in classic and it's an exploit then it probably should be removed like it has already been done on Red. Clickies break the goal of restoring the difficulty of the original Everquest game if their widespread abuse wasn't present in classic EQ.

I read that quote as SUPPORTING ridiculously-powerful classic mechanics.

EQ's "difficulty" and "challenge" were there on live like they're here now. The broken mechanics were there too. The changes have been everything else. The internet, you, 3rd party resources, etc.

It's like when Marty goes back in time with the almanac from present day. Betting isn't easier in the 1950s than in the 1980s... it's just that he already knows what to bet on.

In the same way, P99 isn't easier in 2019 than live was in 1999... it's just that we already know what to do. The quote doesn't say they are trying to recreate the feel of the game, or create a totally different game that is as awe-inspiring for us today as EverQuest was for us in 1999. It says it is the most accurate reincarnation. Not the most similar experience. P99 isn't a "spiritual successor" that is going to do all the things the original devs wanted to do but didn't know how to pull off.

[bum3]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the same way, P99 isn't easier in 2019 than live was in 1999... it's just that we already know what to do.

Which makes it easier. And it's not just that we already know what to do.. it's that we know how to use unintended ways to cheese it. You have used this argument regularly. But I like to look at it this way... the naggy/vox fights already done a month in. Sure they know the fight and how to beat it the intended way and it would have made it easier. But it wasn't done the intended way. Because knowing how to cheese it made it trivial. The 9th and 10th guilds to down naggy/vox in classic knew how to do it from the previous guilds. But it still took them multiple attempts to get it down.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by bum3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which makes it easier. And it's not just that we already know what to do.. it's that we know how to use unintended ways to cheese it. You have used this argument regularly. But I like to look at it this way... the naggy/vox fights already done a month in. Sure they know the fight and how to beat it the intended way and it would have made it easier. But it wasn't done the intended way. Because knowing how to cheese it made it trivial. The 9th and 10th guilds to down naggy/vox in classic knew how to do it from the previous guilds. But it still took them multiple attempts to get it down.

You're basically asking for a different game entirely.

That's a patently absurd thing to do on an emulator specifically trying to recreate the old mechanics.

[Kirdan]

If recharging items via vendor is removed, then there's no excuse to keep soulfire usable by non-paladins. Both were removed from the game after the abuse became an issue.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by Kirdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If recharging items via vendor is removed, then there's no excuse to keep soulfire usable by non-paladins. Both were removed from the game after the abuse became an issue.

I'd love SoulFire to be equicast only. Give Pally players a little something extra to offer raids

[Nirgon]

one is a blatant exploit, the other was usable like guise from inventory

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So we are all ok with items like Red Wood Wands being abused to quad kite stuff in seconds at 5pp a recharge each? It just feels horribly wrong to leave things like this in place.

[jacob54311]

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So we are all ok with items like Red Wood Wands being abused to quad kite stuff in seconds at 5pp a recharge each? It just feels horribly wrong to leave things like this in place.

Yeah. In my mind that kind of thing falls into the completely broken category of things that should be changed, even if they were "classic", like the boats not working properly.