List Integrity

[Crovax]

And to prove my point. Chat logs. I was in a party doing just fine. We thought Grakken was joining to contribute. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More chat log showing the situation of me being partied with Grakken more than willing to help and contribute and him trying to force me to solo it.

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Not sure why people are pretending like I am level 5 and want someone to kill it for me. I am the appropriate level for the /list and have been willing to help from the very beginning before Grakken or anyone else showed up.

[Modus]

Originally Posted by Crovax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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I was in Cazic-Thule at the time of the server crash - alone.

Grakken claimed he was "in the middle of a rubicite named" during the crash.

I can confirm this is a lie.

What else is he hiding?!

[welly321]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was in Cazic-Thule at the time of the server crash - alone.

Grakken claimed he was "in the middle of a rubicite named" during the crash.

I can confirm this is a lie.

What else is he hiding?!

I dont think Grakken is hiding anything. He has been pretty open about his stupidity and childish behavior.

My guess is that him "being in the middle of a rubicite named" was just his socially inept self trying to sound cool to elf friends.

[heyokah]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was in Cazic-Thule at the time of the server crash - alone.

Grakken claimed he was "in the middle of a rubicite named" during the crash.

I can confirm this is a lie.

What else is he hiding?!

Not reading the whole thread, but /exposed

[Sarkhan]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was in Cazic-Thule at the time of the server crash - alone.

Grakken claimed he was "in the middle of a rubicite named" during the crash.

I can confirm this is a lie.

What else is he hiding?!

sounds like Grakken saw server crash and saw a great opportunity to a quick way to top of the list.

Fate's comrade straight up said he'd go to bed if they got a healer so Grakken joined group. Sabotage.
After the group left he noticed another opportunity seeing the guy would be screwed solo he decided he could strongarm his way to #1 and skip a possible 10 hours of waiting. I mean, screw helping people.

Every bit of him from showing up to camp to joining group was all opportunities he saw at getting quick on list. Grakken plays to win, not to make friends.

This whole thread though is another thing entirely and admittedly I came with pitchfork raised and torches burning but seeing the screenshots changed everything. Backfire-thread is 10/10 entertainment and filled my lunch breaks at work.

[Grakken]

Originally Posted by Sarkhan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sounds like Grakken saw server crash and saw a great opportunity to a quick way to top of the list.

Fate's comrade straight up said he'd go to bed if they got a healer so Grakken joined group. Sabotage.
After the group left he noticed another opportunity seeing the guy would be screwed solo he decided he could strongarm his way to #1 and skip a possible 10 hours of waiting. I mean, screw helping people.

Every bit of him from showing up to camp to joining group was all opportunities he saw at getting quick on list. Grakken plays to win, not to make friends.

This whole thread though is another thing entirely and admittedly I came with pitchfork raised and torches burning but seeing the screenshots changed everything. Backfire-thread is 10/10 entertainment and filled my lunch breaks at work.

This is wrong on many counts. Looks at his screenshots again. The party conversation happened before I was part of the group. I left cazic 10 mins after servers came up. Was gonna log out when I saw only one in list. So I listed, I was invited to group minutes later.

[Yoite]

Originally Posted by Sarkhan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sounds like Grakken saw server crash and saw a great opportunity to a quick way to top of the list.

Fate's comrade straight up said he'd go to bed if they got a healer so Grakken joined group. Sabotage.
After the group left he noticed another opportunity seeing the guy would be screwed solo he decided he could strongarm his way to #1 and skip a possible 10 hours of waiting. I mean, screw helping people.

Every bit of him from showing up to camp to joining group was all opportunities he saw at getting quick on list. Grakken plays to win, not to make friends.

This whole thread though is another thing entirely and admittedly I came with pitchfork raised and torches burning but seeing the screenshots changed everything. Backfire-thread is 10/10 entertainment and filled my lunch breaks at work.

yup pretty much...
thats fucked up man

[kauvian]

Originally Posted by Crovax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure why people are pretending like I am level 5 and want someone to kill it for me. I am the appropriate level for the /list and have been willing to help from the very beginning before Grakken or anyone else showed up.

I'm not going to harp on this specific instance, but the whole idea of the list in general. I understand why it was needed, I really do. Quantifying what level the minimum for a list is tough, because if you have a party it doesn't need to be as high. If you're solo it needs to be higher...

The real issue is people who can't clear / effectively camp items solo are listing and expecting help from others when they should probably just go level or bring their own group instead.

Something similar to this scenario happened to me, I was grouped with someone and they asked if they could solo the mobs for xp. I don't care, I dropped group and feigned. Coming back every 5-10 minutes to check on my afk box status, because at this point I don't have any real reason to be there. I come back and he's dead, I have a bunch of tells asking me to de-list for him so he can get back to number one. At this point I have a moral dilemma, either I become a huge dick and tell him no or I just leave and tell him he needs to solo it all on his own. To avoid conflict on a 'game' I log off and tell him that if he can't solo the content he should probably get a group to help him or he should wait until he was high enough of a level to solo the content.

So what is the right call? It's a tough answer and part of me wishes they would just raise the list level on all the items to 50 with a month long lockout, with some GM oversight about solo 50's sniping/being excluded from groups. The other option is to continue letting people snail their way to loot on the backs of others. They're both shitty options so you take your pick, but in the end it represents the community of p99 and maybe we should take better ownership of ourselves?

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by kauvian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

maybe we should take better ownership of ourselves?

I completely respect this sentiment, but you must be relatively new to P99. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[aaezil]

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