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Old 10-31-2019, 12:42 PM
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You are clueless if you think teleports and auction houses are simply QoL.
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Old 10-31-2019, 01:55 PM
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You are clueless if you think teleports and auction houses are simply QoL.
It was confusingly written, but I think he meant THOSE things /were/ game changing.
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Old 10-31-2019, 03:08 PM
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You are clueless if you think teleports and auction houses are simply QoL.
They are and they ruin games.
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Old 10-31-2019, 12:43 PM
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built in Teleports ruin Druids and Wizards . Better to have players rely on them so their spells are actually useful and sought out. Some reward for getting to high levels.
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Old 10-31-2019, 12:43 PM
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Wow didn't curb stomp EQ in terms of sales because it's better, it curbstomped EQ in terms of sales because people are dumb. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 10-31-2019, 03:11 PM
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Wow didn't curb stomp EQ in terms of sales because it's better, it curbstomped EQ in terms of sales because people are dumb. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Ture. But people don't like their eyes to bleed, so...

I've said it somewhere before and I'll say it again. If you had EQ (EQ Green even) and give it a brand new Graphics engine (not even brand new, you could use EQ2 graphics engine) and a UI that didn't make me want to kick puppies, you'd have a game that would have a million subscriptions.
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Old 10-31-2019, 03:13 PM
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Ture. But people don't like their eyes to bleed, so...
When Tunare is your mom.

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Old 10-31-2019, 06:01 PM
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When Tunare is your mom.

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Old 10-31-2019, 04:09 PM
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Ture. But people don't like their eyes to bleed, so...

I've said it somewhere before and I'll say it again. If you had EQ (EQ Green even) and give it a brand new Graphics engine (not even brand new, you could use EQ2 graphics engine) and a UI that didn't make me want to kick puppies, you'd have a game that would have a million subscriptions.
Why the need for a million subs. Everything is judged by console and mobile titles.. and kids consider a game on PC dead if it doesn't have some number of players pulled from their bottoms. Mass appeal doesn't mean something is good, no in fact what it can mean is Diablo 3. If you are basing "goodness" on numbers consider Pop artist music. Having said this, some older guys out there are reading this and wouldn't piss on me if I was fire. Diablo is not that well regarded, EQ is considered one of the popular games that started the move towards Games as a Service models. Personally I see an MMORPG like EQ being its own thing but that doesn't stop others with a more business minded approach seeing it as yet another thing "idiots will pay for", then whatever spark was there that ignited the interest will be removed and replaced with more gimmicks. QoL is a gimmick.
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Old 10-31-2019, 05:56 PM
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Why the need for a million subs. Everything is judged by console and mobile titles.. and kids consider a game on PC dead if it doesn't have some number of players pulled from their bottoms. Mass appeal doesn't mean something is good, no in fact what it can mean is Diablo 3. If you are basing "goodness" on numbers consider Pop artist music. Having said this, some older guys out there are reading this and wouldn't piss on me if I was fire. Diablo is not that well regarded, EQ is considered one of the popular games that started the move towards Games as a Service models. Personally I see an MMORPG like EQ being its own thing but that doesn't stop others with a more business minded approach seeing it as yet another thing "idiots will pay for", then whatever spark was there that ignited the interest will be removed and replaced with more gimmicks. QoL is a gimmick.
If EQ had 10 Million subs and WoW had 100K, who do you think everyone would have copied? And instead of having 1000 shitty WoW clones out there today we'd have 1000 EQ clones.

So yes, number of subs is important.
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