Mages are up shit’s creek I guess

[TheRusty]

It's supply and demand.

You picked mage so you could rocket through the levels by pressing your "cast 01 pause 15 pet attack" macro. You do you, Rocketmage!

But being at the cutting edge of server content, one of the very few at the far end of the leveling curve means that there aren't very many people who are spawning research mats at all - much less the ones you need.

A good deal of those who are doing so, are mages themselves who need the very same mats.

And of course, Everquest being Everquest, failed combines are definitely a thing even at trivial.

But hey. You knew this going in.

[Obrae]

Originally Posted by TheRusty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's supply and demand.

You picked mage so you could rocket through the levels by pressing your "cast 01 pause 15 pet attack" macro. You do you, Rocketmage!

But being at the cutting edge of server content, one of the very few at the far end of the leveling curve means that there aren't very many people who are spawning research mats at all - much less the ones you need.

A good deal of those who are doing so, are mages themselves who need the very same mats.

And of course, Everquest being Everquest, failed combines are definitely a thing even at trivial.

But hey. You knew this going in.

Ah the jealousy, mage have never been the gods of classes and they wont be the one getting 50 the fastest nor in bigger numbers, not sure why the hate around here.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah the jealousy, mage have never been the gods of classes and they wont be the one getting 50 the fastest nor in bigger numbers, not sure why the hate around here.

Yea what a joke. That guy's probably playing a Chanter or Necro and calling Mages overwpowered LOL

[TheRusty]

Originally Posted by Obrae [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah the jealousy, mage have never been the gods of classes and they wont be the one getting 50 the fastest nor in bigger numbers, not sure why the hate around here.

You picked mage so you could get a head start. Same as people who rolled up druids and necros on day one. It's been 20 years man, we know how this game works. And nobody hates you for this. Do your thing, hell, I rolled an enchanter, who am I to judge on someone for wanting an easy time as a naked caster? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem comes up where after taking this head start, you run into an issue where you have a gear dependecy to progress. You need a spell. That spell requires research components - but because there are so few people at the level range to generate those components, and the competition is so high, you have to either tediously grind those components up somehow, or pay someone who has.

And you don't like this. It slows your roll. You knew what you were getting into - it's literally on the server's name - but just the same, you're mad. and you want it rectified. You want a special exception made, just for you, to make a piece of requirement easily accessible off a merchant. To make your roll easier.

And people are laughing at you and mocking you for this demand. Deservedly so. Imagine warriors demanding that crafted armor be put on a merchant or something. That's what you're asking.

if I can suck up that Clarity is months away from my grasp, you can accept that you might have to pay a dude who found your component.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by TheRusty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You picked mage so you could get a head start. Same as people who rolled up druids and necros on day one. It's been 20 years man, we know how this game works. And nobody hates you for this. Do your thing, hell, I rolled an enchanter, who am I to judge on someone for wanting an easy time as a naked caster? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem comes up where after taking this head start, you run into an issue where you have a gear dependecy to progress. You need a spell. That spell requires research components - but because there are so few people at the level range to generate those components, and the competition is so high, you have to either tediously grind those components up somehow, or pay someone who has.

And you don't like this. It slows your roll. You knew what you were getting into - it's literally on the server's name - but just the same, you're mad. and you want it rectified. You want a special exception made, just for you, to make a piece of requirement easily accessible off a merchant. To make your roll easier.

And people are laughing at you and mocking you for this demand. Deservedly so. Imagine warriors demanding that crafted armor be put on a merchant or something. That's what you're asking.

if I can suck up that Clarity is months away from my grasp, you can accept that you might have to pay a dude who found your component.

Such immense hyperbole here in your comparison of vendor-bought Mage pets to vendor-bought Crafted Armor. Cmon bro!

And Enchanters not having Clarity isn't NEARLY as debilitating as Mages not having ANY pets. Indeed I say this only proves my point further. Enchanters even WITHOUT CLARITY are still probably the most powerful Class in Classic-era.

That really says something doesn't it?

[TheRusty]

Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Such immense hyperbole here in your comparison of vendor-bought Mage pets to vendor-bought Crafted Armor. Cmon bro!

And Enchanters not having Clarity isn't NEARLY as debilitating as Mages not having ANY pets. Indeed I say this only proves my point further. Enchanters even WITHOUT CLARITY are still probably the most powerful Class in Classic-era.

That really says something doesn't it?

No.

You want a piece of equipment that you will either have to farm yourself or pay someone else to farm.

You don't like that, so you want it put on a merchant. RIGHT NOW. Instead of, like, a few patches from now.

You're demanding a special exception to the server ruleset because you don't want to spend time or money getting a piece of gear.

That's fucking stupid.

It's not like the spell isn't in game due to botched code. it's there. you're just too lazy and entitled to go about getting it.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Vizax_Xaziv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Such immense hyperbole here in your comparison of vendor-bought Mage pets to vendor-bought Crafted Armor. Cmon bro!

And Enchanters not having Clarity isn't NEARLY as debilitating as Mages not having ANY pets. Indeed I say this only proves my point further. Enchanters even WITHOUT CLARITY are still probably the most powerful Class in Classic-era.

That really says something doesn't it?

Imagine acusing someone of hyperbole then immediately claiming mages don't have 'any' pets.


Oh, and to be balanced, to the person that said mage nukes almost match wizards for only a bit more mana, I just want to point out wizards also get roots very early in addition to a ds, a variety of stun spells and snare. Mages get decent nukes, one if the best ds in the game, and from 24 onwards they seem to be a spell circle or two behind on their pet.

[Obrae]

Originally Posted by TheRusty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You picked mage so you could get a head start. Same as people who rolled up druids and necros on day one. It's been 20 years man, we know how this game works. And nobody hates you for this. Do your thing, hell, I rolled an enchanter, who am I to judge on someone for wanting an easy time as a naked caster? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem comes up where after taking this head start, you run into an issue where you have a gear dependecy to progress. You need a spell. That spell requires research components - but because there are so few people at the level range to generate those components, and the competition is so high, you have to either tediously grind those components up somehow, or pay someone who has.

And you don't like this. It slows your roll. You knew what you were getting into - it's literally on the server's name - but just the same, you're mad. and you want it rectified. You want a special exception made, just for you, to make a piece of requirement easily accessible off a merchant. To make your roll easier.

And people are laughing at you and mocking you for this demand. Deservedly so. Imagine warriors demanding that crafted armor be put on a merchant or something. That's what you're asking.

if I can suck up that Clarity is months away from my grasp, you can accept that you might have to pay a dude who found your component.

Nah you do not understand magician research. Like many who give their opinion here, its getting fixed for a reason. Also Materials ? other class cant really comprehend, i get only a share of other class materials, i give them for free, to some of you commenting here btw. I charge 0 i just dump all materials on other class everytime i see them in need. And even doing that i end up destroying your materials because they drop so damn often.

On the other side, my materials, i get them all, by default in group, people are real nice they let me get my mats. And i barely manage to get a combine or 2 per 5 level.

Now dont forget all our pets are combine only, all pets always need the previous pets. It works, id be lying if i said i dont have my pets. I have 1 per tier up to now, 34, unless i am very lucky will have to wait but i will most likely get the chance of trying the combine once before 39.

But its not like this for all mages. And right now we hope that its possible to make a 39 pets, it may not be. (2 recipe for 34 and 2 for 39 but different pet line) so like said before, since we need the previous tier pet scroll for the new combine it may be that 39+ pets cant be made.

We will know soon enough.

And no i didnt pick mage for a jump start, i picked mage cause thats what i was leveling on blue when green happened. I couldnt care less when i hit 50, i only group and play for fun.

[WaffleztheAndal]

Originally Posted by TheRusty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's supply and demand.

You picked mage so you could rocket through the levels by pressing your "cast 01 pause 15 pet attack" macro. You do you, Rocketmage!

But being at the cutting edge of server content, one of the very few at the far end of the leveling curve means that there aren't very many people who are spawning research mats at all - much less the ones you need.

A good deal of those who are doing so, are mages themselves who need the very same mats.

And of course, Everquest being Everquest, failed combines are definitely a thing even at trivial.

But hey. You knew this going in.

I don't understand the mage hate either. They are far from the strongest class even in vanilla.

[Obrae]

You know people who started as gnome melee seems to be surpised that the earlier levels were full of mages, nercos and enchnaters...

It must be because all people play mages ! and necros!

Ogre warriors didn't go bitch around that everyone was a shaman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]