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[Vx36]

Originally Posted by bradsamma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it wasn't in since the start then fine but removing this targetting system is ridiculous.

What does anything being there from the start have to do with it? Do you guys know what website you are on?

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Vx36 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does tab targeting being there from the start have anything to do with it? Do you guys know what website you are on?

New skeleton models, new wolf models, starting city maps, translocators ....

These are just some of the non-classic things that I can remember off hand that were in the game at launch, but weren't intended to be in there. The devs worked hard to get this project on point, and they are getting it there. I think some of the later players just do not know what the original vision of this project is.

[aaezil]

The whiners are great today

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[tacomagradd]

Please continue to make green the 100% classic that all these purists need. Let blue be what it has been - not a devolution of something unrecognizable to those who've been on the server for years and years.

Blue is already something different than classic - and compromises have already been made to increase playability, honor techniques and methods people have used for years to play. We have invested our time here, and it is frankly depressing to see it all stripped away with changes that really are designed for a new experience, not the old experience we've grown accustomed to with Blue.

Compromise is possible, both purists and pragmatists can have their way. Choice can be maximized, and everyone can have a place for their style, but not if green's changes are imposed upon Blue.

Thanks for maintaining this project. I want to keep playing, but I can't force myself to participate when a cascade of changes are made that essentially make the game clunkier, less user friendly, and less fun. I don't play this game for the "classic" targeting mechanics, I play it for the mob encounters, the people, the lore and nostalgia. If people want to play it for the classic targeting mechanics, then let them roll on green! A new choice for people is truly one of the biggest advantages for the green server, and we should maximize the differences of that choice.

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by tacomagradd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please continue to make green the 100% classic that all these purists need. Let blue be what it has been - not a devolution of something unrecognizable to those who've been on the server for years and years.

Blue is already something different than classic - and compromises have already been made to increase playability, honor techniques and methods people have used for years to play. We have invested our time here, and it is frankly depressing to see it all stripped away with changes that really are designed for a new experience, not the old experience we've grown accustomed to with Blue.

Compromise is possible, both purists and pragmatists can have their way. Choice can be maximized, and everyone can have a place for their style, but not if green's changes are imposed upon Blue.

Thanks for maintaining this project. I want to keep playing, but I can't force myself to participate when a cascade of changes are made that essentially make the game clunkier, less user friendly, and less fun. I don't play this game for the "classic" targeting mechanics, I play it for the mob encounters, the people, the lore and nostalgia. If people want to play it for the classic targeting mechanics, then let them roll on green! A new choice for people is truly one of the biggest advantages for the green server, and we should maximize the differences of that choice.

All I read was, "I can't tab thru targets so I'm quitting."

[encopitt]

Originally Posted by Deathrydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All I read was, "I can't tab thru targets so I'm quitting."

And that's the problem.

-encopitt

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by encopitt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that's the problem.

-encopitt

Well, we agree on one thing then.

[Daldaen]

It’s important to distinctly describe the four methods of keyboard targetting NPCs.

F8 - Target Nearest - This is classic and will target the first NPC entity directly ahead of your characters current bearing.

Tab - Swap Target - This is classic and will swap between targeting yourself and your last non-self target. It’s very useful to keep tabs on a tank not in your group on raids or to keep track of a charmed pet or an NPC during an escort part of a quest.

/target name - Type Target - Unsure on classicness but it exists here and allows you to Target an NPC or PC near you by typing out all or part of the name of the NPC. Previously you could target with NPC ID numbers to identify placeholders but I believe they nerfed that properly but you should still be able to /Target Lord_Nagafen.

Cycle Target - This is confirmed not classic and allowed you to cycle between NPCs 1-10 and then start over at 1 again. This makes many game functions like Crowd Control and DS powerleveling extremely trivial as you can seemlessly target every mob in a crowd one by one without getting the same target twice. It is good they remove this because with it in there is a lot of power gained by CC classes that they should not have by being able to quickly lock down a big train. You should need to fumble with your mouse or continually reposition yourself and try F8 to get a proper Target.

If Tab Targeting was indeed removed it should be reinstated. But it sounds like they removed Cycle targetting which is Classic and a good fix.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s important to distinctly describe the four methods of keyboard targetting NPCs.

F8 - Target Nearest - This is classic and will target the first NPC entity directly ahead of your characters current bearing.

Tab - Swap Target - This is classic and will swap between targeting yourself and your last non-self target. It’s very useful to keep tabs on a tank not in your group on raids or to keep track of a charmed pet or an NPC during an escort part of a quest.

/target name - Type Target - Unsure on classicness but it exists here and allows you to Target an NPC or PC near you by typing out all or part of the name of the NPC. Previously you could target with NPC ID numbers to identify placeholders but I believe they nerfed that properly but you should still be able to /Target Lord_Nagafen.

Cycle Target - This is confirmed not classic and allowed you to cycle between NPCs 1-10 and then start over at 1 again. This makes many game functions like Crowd Control and DS powerleveling extremely trivial as you can seemlessly target every mob in a crowd one by one without getting the same target twice. It is good they remove this because with it in there is a lot of power gained by CC classes that they should not have by being able to quickly lock down a big train. You should need to fumble with your mouse or continually reposition yourself and try F8 to get a proper Target.

If Tab Targeting was indeed removed it should be reinstated. But it sounds like they removed Cycle targetting which is Classic and a good fix.

Great write-up Dald! I made a wiki page out of it (and added mouse click targeting and /assist): http://wiki.project1999.com/Targeting

P.S. Also the wiki has patch notes now: no need to link to that Japanese site (or anywhere else).

[Kinaki]

You're confused. But whatever. This server has nothing to do with classic so one more random change means nothing. Your "cycle target" was live during velious.