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Old 10-01-2019, 11:27 AM
Izmael Izmael is offline
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Loramin, Rogean already reverted the change on Blue (keeping it on Green, which is IMO great).
The point is now therefore moot.

On Blue people will continue to be able to play with mostly the keyboard - relaxing, laid back type play.

On Green, you'll have to go through more classic loops and targeting will be a clickfest. Annoying, but expected, on Green.

Everyone is happy. Hardcore classic adepts have Green, rest of the people (I guesstimate it at 99% give or take), have Blue.

If someone still finds a way to be unhappy now, it's probably safe to file them under "boring and never-content stoner".
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:29 AM
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Loramin, Rogean already reverted the change on Blue (keeping it on Green, which is IMO great) ...
On Green, you'll have to go through more classic loops and targeting will be a clickfest. Annoying, but expected, on Green.
Right, but my point is, Bear Pits will not be impossible on Green. Anyone who thinks that you need cycle targeting to do Bear Pits is wrong IMHO.

We had other targeting mechanisms back in classic, and we used them damnit! (After walking five miles, both ways uphill, in the snow ... which is an expression I love to use in general when I'm sounding like a cantankerous old man, but it's actually especially applicable talking about Permafrost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])
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Old 10-01-2019, 11:30 AM
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Right, but my point is, Bear Pits will not be impossible on Green. Anyone who thinks that you need cycle targeting to do Bear Pits is wrong IMHO.
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Old 10-01-2019, 12:33 PM
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When do we get our forced 640x480 window with the original UI?

Because if the devs aren't working towards that and don't have plans to implement that, it's hard to get behind changes like this.
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Old 10-01-2019, 12:42 PM
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When do we get our forced 640x480 window with the original UI?

Because if the devs aren't working towards that and don't have plans to implement that, it's hard to get behind changes like this.
Doesn't work the same on LCD as it does on CRT

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CRTs fundamentally use analog technology. A pixel was simply a place on the CRT where the electron beam was modulated to make a square-ish spot. Because of this, all supported resolutions typically were similarly crisp (or similarly fuzzy, depending on your perspective).

LCDs are digital. A pixel is essentially a tiny square of all one color, like filling in a picture using graph paper. When using the native resolution, each pixel is extremely crisp.

However, if you try to use a lower resolution, unless it is an integer multiple of the native resolution, then each requested pixel will not fit exactly into a display pixel, this causes lumpy bumpy displays with lines and text being distorted.
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Old 10-01-2019, 01:01 PM
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Doesn't work the same on LCD as it does on CRT
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Also, there has long been a very clear dividing line here: they don't try to mess with your environment, just the game.

Totally unclassic Discord? Allowed.
Totally unclassic Gina (you could read logs, but you couldn't overlay on top of the EQ client in classic) ? Allowed.
Any sort of unclassic new-fangled keyboard/mouse/joystick/gamepad? Allowed ... unless you use it to do something in the game that you couldn't do in classic, then it's banned.

There's an obvious reason why they draw that line: they can control the game, but they can't (seriously) control your environment. There's some small gray area (like their anti-cheat which technically runs outside the game itself), but it's pretty straightforward: they don't try to mess with your environment (the anti-cheat is only used to make sure you don't cheat in-game).

Clearly screen resolution is environmental, and there's nothing hypocritical about them having a logical line and sticking to it.

Oh, and if you want to argue in-game resolution only, A) they have practical limitations (I'm really not sure they even know how to force a resolution within Titanium), and B) even if they can, it's not like players in classic only ran 640x480 either [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 10-01-2019, 01:18 PM
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True, we didn't all use the same res as that was dependent on your preferences and what your machine could handle. But the original devs did force an environment on us, we all ran the same UI. Toggled or not. We were all defined by what it could and could no do.

These devs are more liberal and perhaps they can't force something with Titanium, it would be understandable considering its limitations. But if they did figure out a way it would not be wrong to make it across the board but scalable to the resolution you are using just like original did.
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Old 10-22-2019, 03:14 AM
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I agree to a certain extent, I mean mouse targeting just doesn't work that well (having to click multiple times before the system registers the target). But it might turn out to be more fun, in the sense that crowd control will be harder and group encounters aren't trivialised.

Sadly a lot of enchanter dungeon soloing that was difficult before will be pretty much impossible on green.

I do truly feel for your friend, but we can't expect the staff to keep in all the QoL changes so it is more friendly towards players with disabilities. Isn't there another class he can play?
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Old 10-22-2019, 03:52 AM
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Sadly a lot of enchanter dungeon soloing that was difficult before will be pretty much impossible on green.
Sadly? Its an mmo! You're meant to be taking the other players into dungeons to farm items with them, not do everything solo and treat those players as npc vendors to buy the spoils of your soloing...
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Old 10-22-2019, 04:24 AM
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Sadly? Its an mmo! You're meant to be taking the other players into dungeons to farm items with them, not do everything solo and treat those players as npc vendors to buy the spoils of your soloing...
Still fun though, especially when you want to explore some of the dungeons that aren't popular. But I get your criticism.
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