Talk me out of playing Classic WoW

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Hagglebaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which expansion killed WoW? How long did classic WoW stay good, like does WoW have it's own version of Planes of Power?

Burning Crusade and WotLK were both great, but I feel like it went downhill after that and went for the ezmode crap (like saving tokens for raid quality gear instead of getting the actual drops). I quit like 2 or 3 months into Cataclysm.

[Evia]

Cataclysm is wows version of planes of power. Much like EQ it was best with its two first expansions and it nosedived from there.

[Deathrydar]

To the OP:

I just came from Classic WoW. I got a warrior to level 47. I am in a good guild with good peeps, but it just isn't doing it for me. I played EQ back in 1999 till 2004, and then went to WoW. I played Wow until it became complete crap and even hung in there till WoTLK, which sucked as well. I also played on this server back in 2009 till around late 2010.

I was so excited bout Classic WoW. I took a week off from work to play it. But the game is different from classic EQ, my friend. So I will try to explain myself and perhaps you can relate. Ya see, it all comes down to the community.

The majority of the population on classic WoW is rushing to level 60. It's a mad dash to the finish line. Which makes little sense as classic WoW's leveling experience was content among it's own! Why anyone would want to rush to the max level without enjoying the ride is beyond me. But a fact is a fact- Most WoW players believe that the level 1-60 grind is nothing but an obstacle to get to the "real game", which is the raiding scene.

The majority of the population on classic WoW are anti-social. I can't tell you how many groups I was randomly invited to, only to have it either break up shortly after the objective was complete, or the group would have players going in and out of the group as they completed their quest and they left to go hand it in and we would take on another player that needed the quest items. No one even talks to each other.

The majority of the population on classic WoW are min-maxers. There are so many people talking about how "Druids can't tank" and "you have to be a Dwarf of you're going to be a priest", and as a result, everyone is talking numbers and DPS and TPS and all sorts of other nonsense! If you're like me, that is NOT what brought you to this kind of game! I am here for the community and the fun that this all brings as I can let go of my real-life problems and live thru my character for a short while.

I could go on like this forever, and I am not bashing classic WoW, it is just different. In classic WoW, when I logged on, I was in constant conflict with myself. Would I be able to raid? Will I get to level 60 fast enough to not be left in the dust? When I log on to Project 1999, I am just thinking about other things. I am sitting down somewhere and reading /ooc chat and trying to help people. In classic WoW, I went back into Elwynn Forest around level 40 to see if any of the lower level players needed help. I helped about ten different groups kill Hogger, and not ONE of those groups /thanked me, or even said thank you.

I don't expect them to say thank you, as that is not the goal of my assistance to them, I just would like some damn human interaction!

So on Sunday, I logged off from classic WoW and decided that I would log on to Project 1999 for the first time in years and years. I was so worried that I was going to fall behind more than I already am in classic WoW. I would have to say that didn't even go thru my mind once I was logged in and looking around for my guildmaster. I couldn't even find my guildmaster, I wound up giving my note to the wrong NPC and lost it, and did not get my newbie robe.

I didn't even care, nor did I miss classic WoW even for one minute. The difference in community was noticed! I was buffed and helped by multiple players in my 3 hours of play yesterday in Project 1999. I have still yet to be helped in Classic WoW, even though I try to request help thru the cesspool which is known as their LFG chat.

Once again, it comes down to community. Who do you want to be surrounded by? Thousands and thousands of players looking towards the end of the game, with only their own interests in mind? Listening to players gargle out numbers of encounters? Do you really think Blizzard is going to be able to get rid of layering before phase 2? Nope! They severely underestimated the interest in classic and they dropped the ball as far as how many servers they released!

The madness in classic WoW is never going to stop! It is never going to get better! That community is different than this community.

Which one do you want so spend your free time in? Good luck!

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Evia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cataclysm is wows version of planes of power. Much like EQ it was best with its two first expansions and it nosedived from there.

I disagree. TBC and WoTLK is nothing even comparable to RUins of Kunark and Scars of Velious! Verant kept the game on a horizontal progression as opposed to Blizzard's vertical progression. TBC made old world content and old world zones irrelevant. That is how you ruin a game! The reason why this era in EQ's history is so popular and well received is due to the fact that the the first two expansions of EQ, everything is still relevant!

[Chortles Snort|eS]

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Me caNt brinG seLf to Play clAssIc woW yet me fuN stiLl In p1999 In .2019
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[pink grapefruit]

you should def play wow classic. if you're playing eq on a pve server, wow is a much better game. and play it until u find a real guild and start doing dungeon crawls w ur pals

[Modwolf]

I'm on classic for the nostalgia & pvp. Fun to play until green comes out. We will be back; who can miss the flawless green launch.

[Mead]

Play whatever makes you happy bud. These kids will write a thesis on why they hate literally anything on these forums. Check post history. Play wow classic for a bit, get what you need out of it, and if you aren’t getting any enjoyment then you can always go back to blue and green when it launches. Or keep enjoying it and forget the opinion of a bunch of randos on an elf sim forum. Blue is capped at velios and green will eventually merge into blue. You literally have forever in the same eras to come back to.

[BlackBellamy]

I tried out WoW Classic just like I tried out EQ Progression so I could get a little nostalgia kick before Green comes out. I played WoW for like a year back in the day, got to 60, got bored and left.

For me, WoW is a fine game but it's too easy. It tells you everything and there are a million add-ons for the rest. Here is your quest giver, here is where they drop, this is the map with all the icons. I go PvP, I hear a ding when an enemy gets into range, I get his name, class, level on a nice pop-up, he's got the same info. There are tons of mobs everywhere, just right on top of each other, and they respawn every 10 seconds. I get outraged when I get to a camp and the named isn't up, what the hell is this!? The only death penalty is some coin, maybe. Every class can solo to 60 easily. And I don't mean with some effort. I mean semi-afk button mashing. I never stop killing. I'm a warrior, why would I need a group for? I got potions, bandages, food, my downtime is the sit and stand animation. You can get great gear from easy quests. There are flight paths, boats and zeppelins everywhere. It just goes on and on.

It comes down to personal preference for what style appeals to you. I need risk and I need a slower pace.

[gundumbwing]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I tried out WoW Classic just like I tried out EQ Progression so I could get a little nostalgia kick before Green comes out. I played WoW for like a year back in the day, got to 60, got bored and left.

For me, WoW is a fine game but it's too easy. It tells you everything and there are a million add-ons for the rest. Here is your quest giver, here is where they drop, this is the map with all the icons. I go PvP, I hear a ding when an enemy gets into range, I get his name, class, level on a nice pop-up, he's got the same info. There are tons of mobs everywhere, just right on top of each other, and they respawn every 10 seconds. I get outraged when I get to a camp and the named isn't up, what the hell is this!? The only death penalty is some coin, maybe. Every class can solo to 60 easily. And I don't mean with some effort. I mean semi-afk button mashing. I never stop killing. I'm a warrior, why would I need a group for? I got potions, bandages, food, my downtime is the sit and stand animation. You can get great gear from easy quests. There are flight paths, boats and zeppelins everywhere. It just goes on and on.

It comes down to personal preference for what style appeals to you. I need risk and I need a slower pace.

This is some accurate information here, and why the games are so widely different in gameplay. But also innacurate stuff.

There is no ding when a enemy gets into range, unless you count a spell or ability hitting you. If there's an add-on for that...never heard of it and would never use it so that's your fault if you did. Addons are akin to using Gina and custom UIs in EQ which literally do what you described. I however spot allies perfectly fine with my eyes and prevent ganks by sheer skill if I do indeed get caught unaware, apparently even then using this possibly existing add-on you speak of since I've died only once to pvp against a squad of 5.

Soloing to max level is in a sense as easy as in EQ. Some classes level slower and if you are choosing to solo as a cleric(EQ)/priest(WoW) instead of doing all the group related content that exists at every single level bracket, thats a personal choice not a leveling requirement. Leveling slowly based on badly designed mechanics isn't an indication of difficulty. Slow doesn't = Hard, it just = being slow.

In very few areas I have experienced mobs respawn within 10-20 seconds, I feel this is a bug because I've leveled in those areas religiously in the original classic wow and never had that happen. It's typically a few minutes between spawns, many times being 6 to 8 mins which is the same in many EQ leveling areas. Bandage was OP in classic wow and still is new version, true.

You can solo just fine as a warrior with with bind wound and potions in EQ, if just takes longer and again, that would be your decision to do something that silly. That's a quality of life change wow did to not alienate an entire class to be nothing more then liability in group/solo settings till max level, a decision based on fun and convenience. We all know leveling a warrior in EQ isn't hard difficulty wise. It's "hard" to have the patience to level so damn slow and frustrating being so useless at doing what hybrid tanks can do a thousand times better until the raid scene hits, unless you are twinked to high heaven.

Traveling in classic wow takes longer then EQ. Most zones in EQ are smaller in scale then WoW zones. There isn't a spell like sow that's castable on all characters. There isn't an item like jboots. There isn't even a spell like levitate that also speeds up travel time. There are boats that take longer then zeps, true, but again the zone scaling difference offsets it imo. Both games have porters, though EQ gets access to group ports sooner then Wow. And like in EQ, you can get a mage port to circumvent it.

I'm personally leaning towards you just seem to be biased towards EQ so much it's blinding you. But you are absolutely correct on one thing, it's 100% personal preference on whay appeals to you. That's why I play both. I'm a sucker for damn good games, like Dead Space.