Why are p99 devs trying to make Green non-classic and ignoring proof?

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he thinks (mistakenly) that his poorly conceived ruleset will increase the numbers on his server.

I'm gonna go ahead and ask for a citation on this claim. I know that I would have never bothered with blue if people could just come take whatever they wanted after I spent X hours camping it. The saturated raid scene is bad enough already. Devs did/are doing the right thing by ensuring toxic/sociopathic human nature is minimized.

Aside from that, I don't ever recall Xegony having a problem with rampant killstealing/"might makes right" or I would have never played Live for 5 years. Maybe our GM Vedan ensured that and that was not the norm on other servers?

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know that I would have never bothered with blue if people could just come take whatever they wanted after I spent X hours camping it.

Nobody owns a camp and EQ was never intended for people to sit in the same spot all day long. If you don't want people to take your camp, then defend it by forming a group that is good enough to defeat the opposition. You are perfectly free to roll up to another camp as well and fight for it.

There is diplomacy too. Maybe people don't feel like fighting and you can agree to take turns.

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aside from that, I don't ever recall Xegony having a problem with rampant killstealing/"might makes right" or I would have never played Live for 5 years.

Yes you would have played, if the game had kept being updated to better service the idea of a living world, instead of continually becoming more watered down.

Different player communities will have different quirks and percentages of people who want to play a certain way. You didn't play early EQ though if you are trying to say it didn't exist. 5 years is not Classic EQ either. The first year of EQ is far different from what came after.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You didn't play early EQ though if you are trying to say it didn't exist. 5 years is not Classic EQ either. The first year of EQ is far different from what came after.

I am well aware of what 5 years I played, and it included the first year. I know i would not have gotten into EQ if i was a paying subscriber just getting bullied by other paying subscribers.

Maybe your server/GM handled things differently prior to the PNP being codified... ever think of that as a possibility?

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't want people to take your camp, then defend it by forming a group that is good enough to defeat the opposition. You are perfectly free to roll up to another camp as well and fight for it.

Different player communities will have different quirks and percentages of people who want to play a certain way. You didn't play early EQ though if you are trying to say it didn't exist.

Sorry you played on a shitty server where people acted like absolute scumbags. I started in '99 and my server (Bertox) was most certainly not like this.

Keep your Stockholm syndrome to yourself. Nobody cares.

[Hibbs]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I started in '99 and my server (Bertox)

Bertox OG man!!

[Rang]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody owns a camp and EQ was never intended for people to sit in the same spot all day long. If you don't want people to take your camp, then defend it by forming a group that is good enough to defeat the opposition. You are perfectly free to roll up to another camp as well and fight for it.

There is diplomacy too. Maybe people don't feel like fighting and you can agree to take turns.



Yes you would have played, if the game had kept being updated to better service the idea of a living world, instead of continually becoming more watered down.

Different player communities will have different quirks and percentages of people who want to play a certain way. You didn't play early EQ though if you are trying to say it didn't exist. 5 years is not Classic EQ either. The first year of EQ is far different from what came after.

What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

[kjs86z]

Originally Posted by Rang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul

Except that the puppy...was a dog. But the industry my friends...that was a revolution.

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Idiotic logic from you again. p99 describes itself as trying to recreate Classic EQ. Problem is, that's a lie, as the server is not doing that.

Some people would like a real classic mechanics EQ server to exist. Particularly when the ability to do it is right here already, and the only thing stopping it is a dev who ignores what actually happened in classic and/or would create a better game, because he thinks (mistakenly) that his poorly conceived ruleset will increase the numbers on his server. The "classic EQ" brand on the internet now exists here, solely, creating a case of one person being able to control it, and thus distort the entire perception of EQ.

Wah wah wah

Waaaaaaaah

Babys mad again

[Bardp1999]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wah wah wah

Waaaaaaaah

Babys mad again

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[Sonark]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Idiotic logic from you again. p99 describes itself as trying to recreate Classic EQ. Problem is, that's a lie, as the server is not doing that.

Maybe you need to read the word trying a few more times.

Some people would like a real classic mechanics EQ server to exist.

"real classic mechanics"

Outside of game code, which was buggy (still is buggy, really. and well documented in exactly what ways. And you patch buggy things out of games, because that's how that works) you can't really try to argue about people's behaviours being "Classic"

Amendments happen for a reason, guuuuuuuy.

There was a rule for awhile that then wasn't a rule anymore.

Can we stack swords to infinite heights for a couple months to satisfy what you think of as well and truly Classic, or do you just really like this one mechanic and you're passionate enough about it to the point of madness?

Cause it can be one, both, or neither

Particularly when the ability to do it is right here already, and the only thing stopping it is a dev who ignores what actually happened in classic and/or would create a better game, because he thinks (mistakenly) that his poorly conceived ruleset will increase the numbers on his server.

I think it will keep the numbers more stable and consistent.

The way it did on Live, when they changed this oddly specific thing you miss because it was genuinely toxic.

The "classic EQ" brand on the internet now exists here, solely, creating a case of one person being able to control it, and thus distort the entire perception of EQ.

This is actually true, but not really relevant to anything you're fighting for.