<Aftermath> to Classic WoW

[icedwards]

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[imsorryGMs]

Originally Posted by icedwards [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Didn't last long, now did it?

[dajudge]

AM showing a lot of class here. Riot being crybabies. Get your 70 man zergs out of fear golems.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by dajudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AM showing a lot of class here. Riot being crybabies. Get your 70 man zergs out of fear golems.

You realize Riot tends to skip golems quite frequently to give other guilds a shot, right?

[rezzie]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realize Riot tends to skip golems quite frequently to give other guilds a shot, right?

You realise outside of maybe one or two occurrences, Aftermath has skipped every fear golem, Hate mini, Vox, Guardian Kozz, and other lower-tier content to give other guilds a shot, right?

What's your point?

[feniin]

Originally Posted by rezzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realise outside of maybe one or two occurrences, Aftermath has skipped every fear golem, Hate mini, Vox, Guardian Kozz, and other lower-tier content to give other guilds a shot, right?

What's your point?

How 'bout that Dozekar? Tormax? Dain? Yeli? Trips? Doubles?

[rezzie]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How 'bout that Dozekar? Tormax? Dain? Yeli? Trips? Doubles?

I mentioned these in the UN and in this thread repeatedly. Those mobs can still be contested and won with a minimal kill force. Is your guild capable of killing Dozekar? Tormax? Dain? Yeli? Trips? Doubles? If the answer is yes, turn up during the spawn window and go for it - you have a chance at winning it.

Now compare that to the inner-ring encounters and the disparity between it. Your 30 man raid force is perfectly capable of killing Lord Kreizenn, but you will not win a single Lord Kreizenn when up against a guild who can engage Lord Kreizenn, both guards, potentially one or two trash mobs and dedicate a portion of the raid to kiting trash and keeping that train away for the duration of the kill. It does not matter how skillful your players are or how clever your strategy is: your odds of winning him are zero. Competition is zero. No matter what effort you put in to improving, your odds remain at zero unless you join or form a mega-zerg.

In the zone line era small guilds had just as much chance at winning FTE as any zergs and then pulling the mob in for a kill. If the guilds didn't have the infrastructure for COTH mages, they could snipe one of the frequently dropped pulls.

Guild diversity is healthy and a competitive environment is healthy.

Originally Posted by Aethor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop beating around the bush and give that explanation. Thats what everyone wants to know.

Answer this

The reasons are posted in the announcement and in the replies here. Just because you choose not to read them does not mean they are not there.

And again: regardless of motives, it's a win for the server. You don't need to pat us on the back. Just have fun!

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Detoxx

I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals.

It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately.

Can't hack it anymore, off to WoW Classic while trying to spin one last "fuck you" at the guild that finally gave him some comeuppance. Aftermath responder DKP through the roof in this thread. Probably enough to buy something from those rotated mobs that Aftermath still gets.

[rezzie]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Probably enough to buy something from those rotated mobs that Aftermath still gets.

Not one standing rotation was proposed by Aftermath; two were forced on us.

Remember when you weren't killing any Tunares, or winning any ring wars, but felt your voice was just as equal as ours? Remember arguing that just because you weren't killing them didn't mean you should have no say?

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[feniin]

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Not one standing rotation was proposed by Aftermath; two were forced on us.

Remember when you weren't killing any Tunares, or winning any ring wars, but felt your voice was just as equal as ours? Remember arguing that just because you weren't killing them didn't mean you should have no say?

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