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[Fammaden]

The impression I'm getting though is that this will be less an official re-creation of vanilla than simply Blizzards version of a timelocked progression server. As in they are starting with only vanilla content but it will be adulterated by various code updates that affect the "classic feel".

At least based on some second hand beta opinions and what little I've read about the server itself from official information. I could be wrong about how it will actually play out in real time though.

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The impression I'm getting though is that this will be less an official re-creation of vanilla than simply Blizzards version of a timelocked progression server. As in they are starting with only vanilla content but it will be adulterated by various code updates that affect the "classic feel".

At least based on some second hand beta opinions and what little I've read about the server itself from official information. I could be wrong about how it will actually play out in real time though.

Classic WoW will forever be locked at content available prior to the first expansion and it is definitely not a true-to-original clone. It's pretty much what I've been hopeful for since I lost interest in retail WoW.

[Fammaden]

If this thing continues to make money throughout the progression of content up through Naxx you can bet your ass that TBC will be on the way.

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this thing continues to make money throughout the progression of content up through Naxx you can bet your ass that TBC will be on the way.

I wouldn't say this is out of the question but I think they'll find some other way to make this happen. It wouldn't make much sense in my opinion to force current servers to new content. My guess is that they would spin up new realms or come up with another system to not harm existing servers.

[Endonde]

Originally Posted by Psyborg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wouldn't say this is out of the question but I think they'll find some other way to make this happen. It wouldn't make much sense in my opinion to force current servers to new content. My guess is that they would spin up new realms or come up with another system to not harm existing servers.

They could go the Old School Runescape route and continue to add new unique content in the spirit of the original game. It sounds a bit odd but it was a really successful strategy for the Runescape team.

[Psyborg]

Originally Posted by Endonde [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They could go the Old School Runescape route and continue to add new unique content in the spirit of the original game. It sounds a bit odd but it was a really successful strategy for the Runescape team.

I can see that down the line. I wouldn't oppose anything that is executed well.

[Hyjalx]

Unlike you Nuggie, I was actually playing in the zone during Velious and Luclin. I was a raid leader in Club Fu and I can 100% assure you, dragons were NOT rooted during Velious era. What happened after Velious has nothing to do with P99. You are talking YEARS and almost 2 expansions after the fact and are further proving my point.

They also weren't rooted during Luclin era (at least for a long damn time) when several of us were actually in the zone with farm crews. I was part of a channel I created named "Dozekar". We used this channel to farm Dozekar, Seru and Several NTOV dragons. We were killing Dozekar with 9 people in full Luclin gear and he wasn't rooted. Neither were the other dragons.

Arguing against this just proves you never participated. So again, why the hell are the dragons rooted during Velious?

[Nuggie]

@Loramin

We're bantering semantics at this point, I think. But I never said they were rooted during the Velious timeline. I said:

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Weren't the dragons rooted at some point? If not on the Velious timeline I believe not long after. Which makes the fix not exactly outlandish. But •thing given that were well past the Luclin launch date.

Then i provided quotes from a post from years back that had quotes from ZAM that proved my point that they were rooted "not long after."
What I was trying to convey was that since we're well past the velious timeline ending having rooted dragons isn't such an atrocity like Hyjal is trying to make it out to be. Maybe it's the "custom content portion" of the server?

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unlike you Nuggie, I was actually playing in the zone during Velious and Luclin. I was a raid leader in Club Fu

You're right. I was looking over my older brother's shoulder when he did it. No idea who Club Fu is. Not noteworthy enough to be remembered certainly. Nobody remembers B rate guilds. Don't feel sad. I was never in a memorable guild either.

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and I can 100% assure you, dragons were NOT rooted during Velious era. What happened after Velious has nothing to do with P99. You are talking YEARS and almost 2 expansions after the fact and are further proving my point.

I think the following bolded items starting May of 2002 (following a Dec '01 launch of Luclin. Making it.... 5-6 months? hardly years or during PoP.) prove your statement wrong. You believe what you want to believe and that's fine. However, the historical data shows another story. I find this story to be less biased than your own. Again, custom content. If you don't like it, leave.

All of the posts on ZAM referring to the dragons being perma-rooted don't start showing up until after May of 2002. The Shadows of Luclin expansion launched on Dec 4th 2001.


May 16 2002 at 1:21 AM Rating: Default
20 of us kill him. long fight. his AC has been buffed to **** and back. dispels 1 buff. shrink all your casters and stick them behind the pillar.

now he is properaly rooted make sure you test your CH range BEFORE you attack him or your tank is gonna be cranky :P

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6468


Apr 07 2002 at 3:07 PM Rating: Default
The patch made these dragons easier due to the fact that they are now rooted. Don't have to worry about positioning now which is a plus. There HP were not changed.


Jul 15 2002 at 11:37 AM Rating: Default
We tried him last night, Gozz is perma rooted and can not be pushed. What I need to know is if disease or poison sticks on this guy. His regen is insane. We got him to 60% before clerics went oom and killed from low health agro due to rodding.
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Apr 19 2002 at 7:23 PM Rating: Default
only the keeper has been rooted...gozz/telk can still move

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6321


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she's perma-rooted. meaning she will not move when aggro'd. so don't try an pull her to a nice safe area cause it won't work

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May 07 2002 at 3:56 AM Rating: Good
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she's gotta have like 500k hps! definately more than yelinak who is at 250k. quads for 900. aoe spin the bottle and a magic based dot that slows and takes away life. she's rooted. slowable as well. i think i got that right. anyway, she's definately is an endurance test.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6474

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They also weren't rooted during Luclin era (at least for a long damn time)

I don't find 5-6 months a long time. Hyjal, maybe you fall in with the "millennial" crowd that way. No biggs. Difference of definition.

Originally Posted by Hyjalx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why the hell are the dragons rooted during Velious?

Because thats what the server management team wants. If you don't find their version of classic EQ fun, there are other servers out there. You can make your own. Or you can sit here and complain about it like a chump. I sure wish you'd choose one of the first two and take your cancerous attitude with you.

[Teppler]

Is it completely fair to say rooting dragons has been a complete and utter failure at this point? It’s a failed experiment.

The object was to increase competition and make things less zerg’y right? If not, someone correct me and tell me what it was for.

It’s done the complete utter opposite. It’s destroyed any semblance of competition and has taken zerging to the next level.

I suppose the problem should been seen early on when Rogean talked about leap frogging being in bad taste.... but when the pressures on that is clearly the only way to win mobs. There was a weakness in the plan from that very moment when everyone realized the bottle neck there.

[Endonde]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it completely fair to say rooting dragons has been a complete and utter failure at this point? It’s a failed experiment.

The object was to increase competition and make things less zerg’y right? If not, someone correct me and tell me what it was for.

It’s done the complete utter opposite. It’s destroyed any semblance of competition and has taken zerging to the next level.

I suppose the problem should been seen early on when Rogean talked about leap frogging being in bad taste.... but when the pressures on that is clearly the only way to win mobs. There was a weakness in the plan from that very moment when everyone realized the bottle neck there.

Pretty sure the objective was to stop guilds from training the entire zone all over the place and force them to actually go experience the zone in a more classic manner, and that has been a success.

I think rooted dragons killed small guilds so I don't like it a ton, but it accomplished what the devs wanted to accomplish.