Will Hybrid XP penalties be implemented on Green Server launch?

[Primordial Ooze]

It's a lot easier to go from pre-PNP to PNP than the reverse. Now that the gen pop is long used to the difference, to go back to pre-PNP would attract the fuckshit asshats that just want to ruin people's days. Not sustainable by a long shot.

[Jimjam]

Is this thread trying to provide some kind of meta paladin vs sk role play experience?

[Titanas]

This got really off topic.

Removing EXP penalty for hybrids:
We all know its not classic.
We all know hybrids are bad and don't deserve the penalty.
We all know that some people will minmax and not invite Troll SKs
We all know that some people will roll these classes any ways.

How Class Exp Penalty should be:
Warrior / Rogue +10%
Monk / Druid / Shaman / Cleric / Paladin / Shadowknight / Ranger 0%
Wizard / Magician / Enchanter / Necromancer / Bard -10%

I'm on the fence for Bards because swarm kiting bards deserve a penalty. While grouping bards don't.

[Troxx]

No class deserves an xp penalty. It’s ultimately why the penalty was removed. With few exceptions the classes with the penalty ended up less powerful than the classes who didn’t have one for the first few years of the game.

It is, however, classic. If the goal is to strictly recreated classic it should be in. At the same time, special coding like aoe limits to 25 clearly help the server but are not classic. Following the “classic” argument, such non-classic changes should be removed until green reaches the custom content era of the velious timeline.

PS: summon pet power on p99 is still lower than it should be. Most notably the 59 necro pet EoT was a beast on live.

[jolanar]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No class deserves an xp penalty.

Well that depends on what the intent of a class xp penalty is. Not sure if the original devs ever went on record as to why it was there. My hunch is it was just there because they were copying heavily from DnD and not really any other reason. I think a class penalty that penalizes strong solo classes makes sense personally.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PS: summon pet power on p99 is still lower than it should be. Most notably the 59 necro pet EoT was a beast on live.

There are lots of very basic things from classic EQ that still aren't correct on blue. Not to mention the final Blue patch isn't even in yet. Frankly I don't think they are ready for a Green server. Much less a Green server without any kind of beta.

[aaezil]

What if i told you blue server is a beta server

[Benanov]

Back at the long-abandoned point:

Yeah I can't see myself playing on green if it's a "warts and all" recreation of the 1999 era game. I played a Rogue then and...god. Rogues were awful at launch.

I fell in love with Hybrids at FV launch. No way in hell I'm going to put up with that XP penalty, and I'm not sure that anyone else will. After all, XP sharing isn't based on penalty - it's based on the current XP each party member has - so someone willing to put up with a TRL SHD's huge penalty at lower levels will be much less likely to do so at higher levels.

Blue already has twinked min-max characters bitching about how adding 2 more people to the group will make their XP bar not move and so they leave to solo - and that's with the race penalties being the only ones left.

[Troxx]

Summary:

-long thread
-hybrid penalties suck but will likely be in
-one dude wants PNP to be revoked so we can have dps fights to rationalize shitty player behavior

[radbeard]

I assume hybrid penalties will be in and that makes me sad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[aaezil]

Whether its a dps race or a camp line or a race you will always be beat by the most unshaven and unemployed among us. Tis just the way of things.