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Old 07-26-2019, 07:49 AM
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I can’t wait for green to launch. I think I’m going to just roll my main in this thread tonight.
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Old 07-26-2019, 12:51 AM
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Mage groups are going to tear it up, but where does that get you? Can't farm gear for another class real well with a mage until you get epic(affaik, any pro-mages want to say otherwise and I will relent). Then you're mediocre at best solo, groups can tear up most dungeons.
if you're doing it alone, you're going to lose no matter what

group of mages is the smart plan
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Old 07-26-2019, 05:43 AM
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Mage groups are going to tear it up, but where does that get you? Can't farm gear for another class real well with a mage until you get epic(affaik, any pro-mages want to say otherwise and I will relent). Then you're mediocre at best solo, groups can tear up most dungeons.
Mage pets alone in classic do better DPS than any actual melee character who doesn't have Plane of Sky equipment (which is late classic era only). Mages, Necros, and Enchanters are exactly the classes that will best be able to farm gear and money (Bards can contribute quite well with a Charm pet too, even if it's much more annoying than a regular pet or Enchanter charm, because of breaking every 24 seconds). Melee classes are frankly irrelevant in Classic, aside from the God/Dragon fights, because of how pets get feared away by them. Which is fine with me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ranking the power level of classes at launch in Classic:

01. Necromancer (Fine Steel Daggers drastically hastened the attack speed of their pets, it was crazy; they did the top DPS + so many other tools)
02. Enchanter
03. Mage (their pets were bugged to not be able to use weapons like Necro pets could back in the day, yet they were still super powerful)
04. Bard
05. Druid (being able to charm in Sol B and Plane of Fear is a thing, and their overall versatility as a class shines the most in this era of the game)
06. Cleric
07. Shaman
08. Wizard (Ports + burst damage actually doing something relevant in this era, makes them a more significant class than melee characters)
09. Warrior
10. Monk (top melee DPS in this era and Feign Death is nice, but Warriors with their higher magic resist and HP are more relevant for the one thing that melee actually matter for here - the Dragon/God fights)
11. Shadowknight (when considering how the normally weak SK pets improve significantly with Fine Steel Daggers, SK's might actually have the overall best DPS of any melee character in this era, when judging outside of Dragon/God fights)
12. Ranger
13. Paladin
14. Rogue (pre-buff Sneak/Hide, pre-buff Backstab, weaker primary weapon if they want to Backstab in the first place, and no Evade is a huge yikes...can sometimes get around aggro issues by utilizing proximity from a caster's Root/Blind, but that may cause more work for a group, without great payoff since Rogues at this point are just middling DPS)
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Old 07-26-2019, 07:21 AM
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You have warriors way too high. No sol ro quests for the first six months. Yaks won't be available to the average player for a long while. Any group that's not all casters will need an SK or Pal to tank.
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Old 07-26-2019, 07:50 AM
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You have warriors way too high. No sol ro quests for the first six months. Yaks won't be available to the average player for a long while. Any group that's not all casters will need an SK or Pal to tank.
Definitely not true the first time around on Blue. Most of the warriors were using 2x obsidian dagger for aggro until SSOY iirc.
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Old 07-26-2019, 08:05 AM
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Obsidian shards will not push a warrior ahead of pal or sk in dps or aggro.
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:27 AM
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2x Obsidian Shard was the goto since they proc at such a low level and are common enough. Crookstinger + PGT work as well. Gnoll Lariats kick in at 25, but their damage is ass. Fast weapon damage bonus isn't much either.

Yak are good because they also have a great ratio. Kicsh Der Pavz is a good option pre-Ykesha.

Dex is super important since white threat is trash with shit weapons and damage bonuses aren't really a thing until the 30s.

The reality of the matter is there are two good ways to keep the mob focused on the warrior.
1) Keep the mob rooted and have the warrior stand on top of it. Problem is good is a good chunk of aggro and if it breaks, mob might run toward whatever caster.
2) Group with a mage or necro pet that can hold aggro. If the pet is top of the threat chart and the warrior is the highest threat person in melee range: the warrior will tank.
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:19 AM
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I thought we, here on P99, didn't get the weapon delay of the pet toys?
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Old 07-26-2019, 03:55 PM
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On another note, early on we had a druid that basically monopolized the PKT spawned. Would be a good reason to make a druid.
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Old 07-28-2019, 03:10 PM
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Really surprised no one has mentioned jewelcrafting, wasn't it so profitable at the start.
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