When I knew we were done

[Nuggie]

Overthrown .... Overgrown... this blackberry has a mind of it's own....

[Ghostly]

It's insane that people are using "You wanted to be outside in the sun and grilling" as a negative thing.

"Pfft, you lost pixels because your members want to go outside, looooosers"

[DromalPhrenia]

The best part of our recent losses has been the script flip, with people who used to say 'AM players have no lives' and AM responding 'u mad u got no wins', to AM saying 'we have lives unlike you' and the former life-havers saying u mad u got no wins.

Everyone follows the same tired arguments, the only thing changing is who has lives.

For what it's worth, I was warned well ahead of time in AM that we have much lower summer attendance. I wasn't here for any previous summers so I don't know how much we did/didn't win, but it came up multiple times that we'd need new blood for the summer. I don't know if Riot intentionally formed and heavily recruited right before summer or not, but if it was a plan, it was a smart one.

I hope Riot continues to contest every mob, and obviously I hope we reach our old highs of attendance too. AM has had low periods in the past, and it's too early to call our death. One guild on top is not healthy for the server, and from what I hear, not healthy for the one guild either.

[Kayso2]

Originally Posted by DromalPhrenia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The best part of our recent losses has been the script flip, with people who used to say 'AM players have no lives' and AM responding 'u mad u got no wins', to AM saying 'we have lives unlike you' and the former life-havers saying u mad u got no wins.

Is that really what you take away from this?

There's no script flip. If AM doesn't gloat when it wins and make RIDICULOUS excuses when it loses there's no posts. We get a mob. You get the next one. NBD.

You're poor sports and you're getting your noses rubbed in the mess you've made.

[DromalPhrenia]

Originally Posted by Kayso2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is that really what you take away from this?

There's no script flip. If AM doesn't gloat when it wins and make RIDICULOUS excuses when it loses there's no posts. We get a mob. You get the next one. NBD.

You're poor sports and you're getting your noses rubbed in the mess you've made.

What? There absolutely is a script flip, people stated that Aftermath only got mobs at weird hours due to having no lives. Now they're in a guild that gets mobs at weird hours, so that explanation won't work without insulting themselves.

If the excuse that we didn't log on due to having real lives is ridiculous and poor sportsmanship, then that means all the people using that excuse in the past were ridiculous poor sports too.

"Get a life, morans" vs. "Mad because bad" is the script, its been flipped. No idea what you're going on about.

[Kayso2]

Originally Posted by DromalPhrenia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No idea what you're going on about.

I'm sure Detoxx, Monrezz, DMX, and all the other boys of summer have no idea either...

[Arkanjil]

Originally Posted by Kayso2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure Detoxx, Monrezz, DMX, and all the other boys of summer have no idea either...

You're pretty toxic friend. Maybe you should be the one going outside...

[reznor_]

Originally Posted by DromalPhrenia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No idea what you're going on about.

It's Kayso2, in general he doesn't really have a grasp of what *he's* going on about.

I've only been raiding competitively for about 3 months. The issue I take with all of this is the hypocrisy of Riot and this pseudo “white knight” attitude. I can cite the recent example of the AM raid suspension from the guard train at Vulak. That shit happens on both sides of the fence, it's just noticeably less public when someone else does it to AM. Newsflash, Riot are not always the good guys (and neither are we).

The GMs did a shitty job with rooting the dragons, it was lazy. Yeah yeah I know you’re not paid and this a volunteer effort. But I write code as part of my job, too. There was no thought that went into it except they were tired of seeing 1 guild dominate the pull to zone tactic. It’s difficult for me to believe the kumbaya meta they are trying to instill.

I’m personally fine with cycles going back and forth, and allowing everyone to get loot, because it’s cool and it’s fun. I never got to experience this in classic and I’m happy to experience it now -- the competitive environment is great. But the rooted dragons just wear me down. I love p99 and I love my class, I really enjoy playing a more active role as a cleric now. But for gods sake, can we at least allow the dragons to be positioned? It was novel for like, 2 or 3 cycles, but like we saw this weekend, it took Riot approximately 4 hours to kill Vulak with no competition. Just make the leash range short, like 200-400 units or something, allow for positioning, etc. Even a small change like that would improve the quality of life for those involved.

But moreover, stop being the pot calling the kettle black. Y’all were complaining that AM players have no life, that they get mobs at off hours and always have 100+. That meta is flipped now, it’s Riot who gets the mobs at off hours, etc. My only complaint is the hypocrisy. Stop acting like something you aren’t.

[Kayso2]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've only been raiding competitively for about 3 months

They should have made you and officer and not Monrezz. Experience matters.

[Convict]

Originally Posted by reznor_ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's Kayso2, in general he doesn't really have a grasp of what *he's* going on about.

I've only been raiding competitively for about 3 months.

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