Spells: Pacify duration incorrect for timeline

[Wakanda]

I know pacify is pretty op because I pack stuff with my cleric and then log on my shaman to safely pull it several minutes later ��

[Wakanda]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know pacify is pretty op because I paci stuff with my cleric and then log on my shaman to safely pull it several minutes later ��

[bivouac]

I was surprised to see this change to 2 minutes go live without the usual "fixed, pending update". The Caster's Realm evidence seemed pretty dodgy to me when I read the thread a few months back. Here I'll present some counter evidence to hopefully show 7 minutes was the correct max duration in era.

Dolalin's spdat archive, especially the Historical spreadsheet, is my main source for these screenshots. The eqemu buff duration formula page is also helpful to find the correct calculation for a particular formula.

Here's the history of Pacify for the trilogy era. Only a Resist Adj change was made some time before Kunark. The duration and its formula weren't touched.
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Looking at the eqemu docs, Pacify is duration formula 8, which we see is "Lowest of (Level + 10) or Duration" in ticks. A zero in duration is ignored and only limits duration by the player's level. Therefore, Pacify should range from 49 ticks at lvl 39 to 70 ticks at lvl 60.

Calm, on the other hand, has Duration 30, limiting it to 3 minutes for anyone above lvl 19:
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Here are the other spells with the same duration/formula combo as Pacify for comparison:
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To refute the Caster's Realm duration from Zuranthium's earlier post, let's compare the max durations they have listed on some of the other spells using the same formula:
Feral Spirit: Instant
Savage Spirit: 15 minutes
Aegis of Ro: Instant
Cadeau of Flame: 6 minutes
Bedlam: 8 minutes
Cripple: 20 minutes

All of these are up to 7 minute buffs/debuffs in the spdats and on p99. I'd argue the Caster's Realm guys didn't know the calculation for this type of spell duration or posted some unverified community info. I admit there's a spdat blind spot from Aug '01 to Mar '02, where the Lucy spell history picks up, but it really doesn't look like they touched the max duration until Jan '03.

[spoil]

Nice work bivouac. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by bivouac [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The eqemu buff duration formula page is also helpful to find the correct calculation for a particular formula.

That makes perfect sense now -- I was wondering how that could work if there was no duration set!

I agree with your conclusion, 7 minutes seems right.

[zelld52]

Pacify had a very short duration during Gates of Discord - i played enchanter then and it only lasted 2 minutes

[funry]

Kind of strange to make such a negative QoL change based on some unconfirmed single reference.

REEEEEEE

Change it back please and thanks.

[Keebz]

It sounds more like paci didn't work at all in era from the testimonials and missing spdat entry. 2 minutes is too long.

[Impact1983]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It sounds more like paci didn't work at all in era from the testimonials and missing spdat entry. 2 minutes is too long.

Missing data must mean it didn't ever fade.

[scifo76]

Pacify definitely had a 7 mins duration during Velious.