Monk Epic vs AC vs SoS

[Troxx]

Do what ya want buddy

[Sizar]

This is a tired and SUPER old discussion. Epic / SoS is better when you go through all the numbers, pretty sure a dozen or more monks have parsed this. Just look around at every epic monk you see that isn't rocking raid weapons and you will see epic / sos more often than not.

If everyone is telling you one thing is true, good chance it is. Just because some brain dead morons tell you Game of Thrones is shit doesn't make it true, kinda the biggest thing going on so MAYBE it's actually good??

You're call, but you're going to be wasting your time.

[whitebandit]

Originally Posted by Sizar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a tired and SUPER old discussion. Epic / SoS is better when you go through all the numbers, pretty sure a dozen or more monks have parsed this. Just look around at every epic monk you see that isn't rocking raid weapons and you will see epic / sos more often than not.

If everyone is telling you one thing is true, good chance it is. Just because some brain dead morons tell you Game of Thrones is shit doesn't make it true, kinda the biggest thing going on so MAYBE it's actually good??

You're call, but you're going to be wasting your time.

While i agree with you on this one point, there are probably parses that back up the epic/sos being the best, The logic of "everyone says its true so it must be" is a fallacy... Look at religion.... Just because the majority of people believe there is a dude in the clouds playing dungeon master, does not mean its true.

[Sizar]

Originally Posted by whitebandit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While i agree with you on this one point, there are probably parses that back up the epic/sos being the best, The logic of "everyone says its true so it must be" is a fallacy... Look at religion.... Just because the majority of people believe there is a dude in the clouds playing dungeon master, does not mean its true.

Oh I agree and understand your point. Basically what I was getting at is if for the last 7 years or however long Kunark and therefore epics have been around, the majority of monks are running around with epic / sos , it probably means that it's actually the best combo. I just may have not used the correct analogy (people who don't watch GoT are doing themselves a disservice) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[bradsamma]

Originally Posted by Sizar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh I agree and understand your point. Basically what I was getting at is if for the last 7 years or however long Kunark and therefore epics have been around, the majority of monks are running around with epic / sos , it probably means that it's actually the best combo. I just may have not used the correct analogy (people who don't watch GoT are doing themselves a disservice) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warriors for a long time were stacking HP to maximize CH. At one point, they realized that if they stacked AC instead (during the time of augments) that they would be able to survive longer between CH's and have less damage spike deaths.

The vast majority of people out there don't parse themselves and just do whatever someone else suggests.

I'm also trying to figure out what the correct damage formula is....

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by bradsamma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Warriors for a long time were stacking HP to maximize CH. At one point, they realized that if they stacked AC instead (during the time of augments) that they would be able to survive longer between CH's and have less damage spike deaths.

The vast majority of people out there don't parse themselves and just do whatever someone else suggests.

I'm also trying to figure out what the correct damage formula is....

I WAS that warrior on live who parsed the shit out of AC. Between me and Brael (a sk forum leader) we eventually changed minds. The forum battles on thesteelwarrior were epic.

Take it from a dude who parses everything. Epic/SoS > AC/SoS

Or don't and actually parse it for yourself. If you have epic, you have all you need to test your math. Math is a good place to start but the actual code and variability is the fuzzy point. Real life performance does not always match up with the 'math'.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Sizar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a tired and SUPER old discussion. Epic / SoS is better when you go through all the numbers, pretty sure a dozen or more monks have parsed this. Just look around at every epic monk you see that isn't rocking raid weapons and you will see epic / sos more often than not.

If everyone is telling you one thing is true, good chance it is. Just because some brain dead morons tell you Game of Thrones is shit doesn't make it true, kinda the biggest thing going on so MAYBE it's actually good??

You're call, but you're going to be wasting your time.

Game of Thrones was shit. 90% of the show was people walking and talking about what they did or were going to do instead of actually doing stuff.


Watch it again, you'll be bored out of your skull until you get to the stand out scenes where things actually happen that are sprinkled in here and there.

[GinnasP99]

Forgetting about numbers/mitigation for a sec, do you want to see a badass monk bubble fist graphic, or a splintering club.

[bradsamma]

Originally Posted by GinnasP99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forgetting about numbers/mitigation for a sec, do you want to see a badass monk bubble fist graphic, or a splintering club.

Haha, touche!

[bradsamma]

So, assuming an even distribution in damage for the ratio, is the damage bonus added after that? Should I be dividing the ratio/strength/skill portion of the damage by 2 THEN adding in the damage bonus before dividing everything by the delay?

The individual mob mitigation makes this more difficult to figure out obviously. I need to start doing some parses. Is Captain Boshinko always level 40? Maybe I'll go do an AFK camp on him with both combinations, doing an hour camp on each one.