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Old 04-12-2019, 10:31 AM
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...but the time it takes to clear to dragons will leave openings for others to get their share (if spawns aren't too spread out anyway).
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Old 04-12-2019, 12:53 PM
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Kittens killed 1/5 of the dragons solo and 1/3 overall. AM didn't kill everything this round. Now, they will certainly start getting more of the pie outside of ToV again, but the time it takes to clear to dragons will leave openings for others to get their share (if spawns aren't too spread out anyway).
Until either staff lays out some way to stake a claim to a dragon or the guild leaders come up with some agreements people (AM) are just going to leapfrog the shit outta everyone. From what I've heard almost everyone has come to the table to work out a deal and just one guild has been a twat about it.

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Old 04-12-2019, 03:12 PM
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From what I've heard almost everyone has come to the table to work out a deal and just one guild has been a twat about it.
You're misinformed.

So far no guild has proposed any deal or agreement to address leapfrogging.

In fact Core outright stated they would be attempting to leapfrog, though they described it as lowering themselves to our level.
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:37 PM
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My guild did a bunch of leapfrogging, backed out of the current Tunare agreement for more pixels, and refused to come to any sort of agreement regarding Vulak, and now I am surprised and disappointed that other guilds are threatening to leapfrog us in return.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:39 PM
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Sorry, where was the surprise/disappointment in my reply?
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:38 PM
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Until either staff lays out some way to stake a claim to a dragon or the guild leaders come up with some agreements people (AM) are just going to leapfrog the shit outta everyone. From what I've heard almost everyone has come to the table to work out a deal and just one guild has been a twat about it.

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I'm not exactly sure why there was so much animosity about that doze. From my point of view...

After killing KT, i logged back to Twochain and ran to the drop down. Core was positioned there, with no mobs in camp. Once we got about 10-15 people positioned at the drop down.. you guys pulled the first wurm. At that point, we already had been cothing people to the safe spot, so we had a force both in front of, and behind doze. Sometime while you were killing the second doze, we had 3 different mobs in camp. IDK where they came from, I was positioned in front of doze. I FTE'd doze while we were also killing 3 separate mobs.

With 300+ people in ToV at that time, also given the fact that we killed more trash mobs to secure the kill, IDK how this is perceived as such a backhanded move from AM. Should we have passed on the 2nd best dragon in ToV because you guys pulled a wurm first? Is that all it takes to claim a dragon?

There was another instance that night where we could have very much leap frogged and killed a dragon from AG. We gave them an opportunity to kill it instead. I don't think we're as bad as people claim. But OFC I think that, i'm in Aftermath.
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:39 PM
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I'm not exactly sure why there was so much animosity about that doze. From my point of view...

After killing KT, i logged back to Twochain and ran to the drop down. Core was positioned there, with no mobs in camp. Once we got about 10-15 people positioned at the drop down.. you guys pulled the first wurm. At that point, we already had been cothing people to the safe spot, so we had a force both in front of, and behind doze. Sometime while you were killing the second doze, we had 3 different mobs in camp. IDK where they came from, I was positioned in front of doze. I FTE'd doze while we were also killing 3 separate mobs.

With 300+ people in ToV at that time, also given the fact that we killed more trash mobs to secure the kill, IDK how this is perceived as such a backhanded move from AM. Should we have passed on the 2nd best dragon in ToV because you guys pulled a wurm first? Is that all it takes to claim a dragon?

There was another instance that night where we could have very much leap frogged and killed a dragon from AG. We gave them an opportunity to kill it instead. I don't think we're as bad as people claim. But OFC I think that, i'm in Aftermath.
The second wurm* I really need to proof read lol
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:43 PM
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There was another instance that night where we could have very much leap frogged and killed a dragon from AG. We gave them an opportunity to kill it instead. I don't think we're as bad as people claim. But OFC I think that, i'm in Aftermath.
We engaged that dragon with most of our clerics at 10% mana because your guild was positioning themselves as if you planned to leapfrog it. I'm sure you would never do that though. Never ever.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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We engaged that dragon with most of our clerics at 10% mana because your guild was positioning themselves as if you planned to leapfrog it. I'm sure you would never do that though. Never ever.
Sheeeeeeiiittt

But hey, we killed all the trash mobs to that dragon! You leapfrogged us first! lmaoo
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:47 PM
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I'm not exactly sure why there was so much animosity about that doze. From my point of view...

After killing KT, i logged back to Twochain and ran to the drop down. Core was positioned there, with no mobs in camp. Once we got about 10-15 people positioned at the drop down.. you guys pulled the first wurm. At that point, we already had been cothing people to the safe spot, so we had a force both in front of, and behind doze. Sometime while you were killing the second doze, we had 3 different mobs in camp. IDK where they came from, I was positioned in front of doze. I FTE'd doze while we were also killing 3 separate mobs.

With 300+ people in ToV at that time, also given the fact that we killed more trash mobs to secure the kill, IDK how this is perceived as such a backhanded move from AM. Should we have passed on the 2nd best dragon in ToV because you guys pulled a wurm first? Is that all it takes to claim a dragon?

There was another instance that night where we could have very much leap frogged and killed a dragon from AG. We gave them an opportunity to kill it instead. I don't think we're as bad as people claim. But OFC I think that, i'm in Aftermath.

There were not 300 people in ToV when we were crawling to Doze, that was like 25 min into repop and most avoided the obvious longer raids that the ToV dragons represented.

Also we just had cleared Zemm who randomly hit for like 700 now, was strange.

Regardless, grats on the kill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] totally undersrand Pixels > Guild relations, its a business decision sometimes.
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