You guys just couldn’t grow up and play nice, could you?

[Twochain]

If you're going to say select few in aftermath "Broke the rules all the time" at least name them. I don't think people broke the rules all the time... what made you guys so mad? Who hurt you. What happened?"


I understand about corner staring and how that could be the worst. I understand why this was done. My look on it though is... I started raiding on p99 in 2017.. and in those two years, this is the third "Era" of ToV. 1st was FTE race era, 2nd was Instant pull era.. Kind of a decent way to refresh raid content that will be the same for as long as this server operates, which honestly, I kind of hope I can play p99 forever. This is my favorite game, in my favorite era. I hope we continue to improve the Raid experience as long as the server is still operating.

Killing trash is tedious though ugh.. lmao. Hopefully I get some flurry drake loot!

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're going to say select few in aftermath "Broke the rules all the time" at least name them. I don't think people broke the rules all the time... what made you guys so mad? Who hurt you. What happened?"


I understand about corner staring and how that could be the worst. I understand why this was done. My look on it though is... I started raiding on p99 in 2017.. and in those two years, this is the third "Era" of ToV. 1st was FTE race era, 2nd was Instant pull era.. Kind of a decent way to refresh raid content that will be the same for as long as this server operates, which honestly, I kind of hope I can play p99 forever. This is my favorite game, in my favorite era. I hope we continue to improve the Raid experience as long as the server is still operating.

Killing trash is tedious though ugh.. lmao. Hopefully I get some flurry drake loot!

Some people are just bitter, Twochain. I've never had more problems with AM than I've had with anyone else, your guild is just more visible because you're on top which puts you in the spotlight.

But regardless of who gets the most pixels or whatever in the coming weeks, I feel anyone who isn't a puller comes out on top with this change, regardless of guild. Also people who want to camp Shralok Packs probably benefit from this as well =P

Like you said, wall staring is boring as fuck. Killing trash might be tedious but at least it involves doing the stuff we rolled our classes for instead of sitting in a corner semi-afk. I'm looking forward to actually getting to play my class again in a raid environment.

Here's hoping we can all adjust to the changes with minimal bumps and growing pains.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Heebs13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's hoping we can all adjust to the changes with minimal bumps and growing pains.

the true cruelty of rooting the dragons is that dps monks are now valuable @spyder73

[Heebs13]

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the true cruelty of rooting the dragons is that dps monks are now valuable @spyder73

Honestly what's really going to boggle some people's minds is now you're actually going to want knights around to handle trash adds or the boss mob's guardians. We just spent the last 4 years crapping on hybrids in the raid scene and now people have to unlearn that mentality.

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by Heebs13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm looking forward to actually getting to play my class again in a raid environment.

Here's hoping we can all adjust to the changes with minimal bumps and growing pains.

That's the spirit <3

[branamil]

Back in the day it was a big deal which major faction your guild chose. They didn't have the luxury of infinite time to switch back and forth every week. With this change it will be very hard for most raiders to keep their CoV faction, you can't /q after every trash pull.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Also, just adding that I liked braknars previous push for rotations but I like this even more.

[Wonkie]

Fungis are 60k again? why

[Cecily]

Free market?

[Kayso2]

When Core got Tunare today, we were literally making jokes in Discord to the effect of "Lol, that's three losses in a row. Time for AM leadership to decide the current agreement is broken".

Even if the ToV changes code was developed months ago, it's clear that this "solution" was 100% a knee-jerk reaction by box owners who probably haven't paid enough attention to the raid scene lately to make an informed decision. Normally those types of decisions are bad, but now we have a more effective metric: Is Aftermath leadership supportive? If not, its probably good for the server and everyone else.

As a casual scrub, I'm looking forward to see how the meta plays out in terms of the time value of loot in ToV.