Warrior Weapon HATE Tables

[Legidias]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One last consideration that's missing here is the fact that proc hate scales based on mob HP.

[Citation needed]

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Citation needed]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...=317220&page=3

This is what Haynar is working from. If it's not live already (I'm pretty sure it is) it will be in one of the next few patches:

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I was a little off actually.

Hate = 1/15 * mob HP, min=25 max=1200

[Cerate]

If you scroll down on your source's source a bit, you'll find another section which distinguishes procs from spells as having a different cap of 400. From that source:

"This affects not just stuns, but also slows and snares and presumably any of the effects with hate that scales with NPC hitpoints. The scaling spell hate portion of a proc is capped at 400-- any damage component will stack. I used a swarmcaller on a 3600 hp NPC and the proc did ~236 hate. The proc on a 11.5k hp NPC did 400 hate."

I used Sentry Enots to parse hate, as he has 18k HP, this would imply a 18k/15=1200 cap from the spell hate method. WESS, Willsapper, Nev's Horn, Tserrina's Whip, Silken Whip of Ensnaring, Glaive of Marltek and Trochilic's Skean all parsed around 400-450. I strongly suspect the cap for most non-damaging components is 400.

Two weapons confound that, Ykesha (730-814) and Kunzar Kujuch (626-710), which parse higher for some reason. Still trying to figure out why, maybe I pushed them out of melee range or something.

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by Cerate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you scroll down on your source's source a bit, you'll find another section which distinguishes procs from spells as having a different cap of 400.

And right you are. I was wrong. Proc hate is capped at 400 always.

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[Troxx]

Those proc values quoted aren’t accurate. To answer your question, though, the hate value should be the same regardless of whether it resists or lands.

[Dillusional]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those proc values quoted aren’t accurate. To answer your question, though, the hate value should be the same regardless of whether it resists or lands.

What made them inaccurate, do the non-damage components of those procs not scale to 400 hate against velious raid mobs (NPC's with arbitrarily large amounts of hp)? or do you not get the damage from a DoT as 1 hate per damage up front when you proc? Someone pointed out that i didn't include 99% haste in the calculations, that would've been good.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Dillusional [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What made them inaccurate, do the non-damage components of those procs not scale to 400 hate against velious raid mobs (NPC's with arbitrarily large amounts of hp)? or do you not get the damage from a DoT as 1 hate per damage up front when you proc? Someone pointed out that i didn't include 99% haste in the calculations, that would've been good.

Trident of the deep sea 900 threat?

[Dillusional]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trident of the deep sea 900 threat?

I just logged in and verified that trident of the deep sea proc lasts for 2 and a half minutes ( got 26 ticks out of it ) for a maximum damage of 20 per tick. Against a 60 cleric it was usually doing 13 per tick but against the split paw commander in black burrow it was doing the full 20 per tick heh.

So if you do get all the hate for DoT damage up front and it's always for the full amount, it would be 400 + (~25 * 20) or 900 hate per proc yeah, gotta go over to emu soruce and verify that's what is going on.

[mycoolrausch]

Does anyone have experience with resisted pure damage dots and no extra debuffs? They generate any hate?

[Dillusional]

Primary hand at level 60 with Visions of Grandeur

Swift Blade of Zek

1800 / 1.99 = 904.523.. server rounds this down to 904

(60/.904) * (11 + 11) = 1460.177 hate per minute

Blade of Carnage

2300 / 1.99 = 1155

(60/1.155) * (15 + 11) = 1350.649 hate per minute