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[loramin]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On Bristlebane for example Nagafen/Vox had signup calendars and slots were rolled each month but that was in Kunark/Velious. I doubt any servers rotated current content w the public, maybe a couple did but it certainly was not the “norm” if it existed at all.

Oh I know: I signed up on that calendar and led one of those raids against Vox with my chumpy family/low-tier raid guild, along with a lot of random people (Lord Bob style) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It was one of my favorite memories of live EQ in fact.

And that's exactly it. I'm not asking for Sleeper's Tomb to be rotated here. We're talking about rotating zones like ToV. Vox had barely even existed on Bristlebane half as long as Yelinak has on Project 1999 before the GMs on Bristlebane started rotating it. By that measure, ToV is overdue for rotation! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But really, now that people are finally starting to make honest arguments (and thank you to everyone doing so, even if I disagree with your stance) we can finally start actually honestly debating the issue. And if we're doing that, the question is simple: what system is in the best interest of the most people on P99? Is it better to let the most dedicated players monopolize certain content, or is it better to forcibly open up (as was done on live servers) that content to let other players experience it?

You can argue how unfair it is to the hardcore players that they should get less chances at loot per week. That's an honest argument, which relies on the core principle that what's most important here is the most dedicated players getting the most chances at loot.

I'm arguing a different principle: that the server would be more fun for everyone overall, and a better representation of classic EQ, if rotations were implemented.

[jpetrick]

It’s 96% for summoning you noobs.

[Nexii]

Not to mention bosses that CH/gate. Which I think may be some of the reason the root the dragons thing hasn't been a thing yet. There's other implications. So realistically a player rule around it barring a lot of code changes..

[jpetrick]

Hey Loramin, Everquest has always been a game where those who are more casual don’t get to experience all the content. That’s as classic as it can get. Now stop writing ignorant essays please, we’re tired of them.

[Erati]

Live EQ servers had 2000-2500 people on them during heydays of classic, at least the middle pop / high pop ones did.

P99 while has a higher concentration of lvl 60 characters for Velious than live did still is less crowded than actual real servers. Think back, exp groups were happy to “camp” 3 spawn rooms all night as their exp grind. Zones were picked clean everywhere in era.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Live EQ servers had 2000-2500 people on them during heydays of classic, at least the middle pop / high pop ones did.

P99 while has a higher concentration of lvl 60 characters for Velious than live did still is less crowded than actual real servers. Think back, exp groups were happy to “camp” 3 spawn rooms all night as their exp grind. Zones were picked clean everywhere in era.

how does the raiding population compare to live in numbers and frequency? exp groups aren't an honest argument

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how does the raiding population compare to live in numbers and frequency? exp groups aren't an honest argument

P99 way top heavier as I mentioned more 60 per capita in era than on live but when people try to act like P99 has more players than live servers its just false.

Raiding is completely different when you have expansions every 6 month-1year which shifts population to new zones and forces guilds to devote resources to new progression. P99 will forever bc a cluster of raiders at the top compared to live because of this.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when people try to act like P99 has more players than live servers its just false.

who said that

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who said that

Trolls gotta troll I guess

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That means admitting that a lot of our raid circumstances are unavoidable. P99 has higher population than many in-era live servers

[Erati]

Pretty sure it wasnt a GM Naggy Vox rotation but rather someone who was willing to maintain a website calendar and most guilds were fine w this bc it was Naggy and Vox...

Its rare to find more extensive raid mob rotation, Im sure a few existed but certainly not the norm.