Fascism in the UK

[Caldwin]

Originally Posted by DinoTriz2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep, it's the loophole they can squeeze through.

One of the main reasons why I don't agree with Libertarians fully.

Because the private sector can be used to oppress us just as well as any government can.

Especially when the government doesn't bother breaking up any massive monopolies.

Well I am a libertarian. But, if government, at least the US government, followed what the founders intended, these monopolistic corporations wouldn't have all the loopholes and favors the government bestow upon them. Then, maybe the little guy can compete and we'd have a real free market. After all, the biggest obstacles for the little guy, compared to the big corporations, are regulations and license (and other) fees. Big corporations have huge legal departments to negotiate the regulations and have the capital for the fees. And guess what, many times it's the corporations that push the regulations and fees to keep out the little guy. And don't get me started with corporate subsidies.

Originally Posted by DinoTriz2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Their police departments are more focused on mean tweets than violent criminals.

What is the world coming to. Literally the thought police.

Originally Posted by DinoTriz2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couple that with the crackdown on porn and it's almost like a religious theocracy.

I'm an atheist and certainly wouldn't want any kind of theocracy whether from the left or right. It's like the global warming religion, those who have other views are heretics.

[kyrobo]

Oh, the first bit is fine. Bringing in people who can do stuff is a good idea. Just chopped the quote in a weird spot.

[America]

Originally Posted by kyrobo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, the first bit is fine. Bringing in people who can do stuff is a good idea. Just chopped the quote in a weird spot.

I think you might be right.

However, beyond the economic argument, I think some consideration must be makeable in situations where there is a severe cultural mismatch. For instance, I don't want Muslim fundamentalists being taken in in number even if they meet other thresholds.

If there were a hypothetical culture where 95% of transplants wind up isolated from society permanently upon entry, I think we would need a mechanism to deal with that huge obvious trend. Know what I mean?

I'll ruminate on this! Would love to hear your thoughts.

[America]

I think you might be right.

However, beyond the economic argument, I think some consideration must be makeable in situations where there is a severe cultural mismatch. For instance, I don't want Muslim fundamentalists being taken in in number even if they meet other thresholds. This is because speaking generally they vote for things that would oppress me.

If there were a hypothetical culture where 95% of transplants wind up isolated from society permanently upon entry, I think we would need a mechanism to deal with that huge obvious trend. Know what I mean?

I'll ruminate on this! Would love to hear your thoughts.

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edit with lil more clarity ^_^

[kyrobo]

Originally Posted by America [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there were a hypothetical culture where 95% of transplants wind up isolated from society permanently upon entry, I think we would need a mechanism to deal with that huge obvious trend. Know what I mean?

I feel ya. It's tricky. I think such a mechanism might be unconstitutional, though. I'm not anything close to a legal scholar but as far as I can tell it would probably run afoul of both establishment and free exercise.

[America]

Originally Posted by kyrobo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel ya. It's tricky. I think such a mechanism might be unconstitutional, though. I'm not anything close to a legal scholar but as far as I can tell it would probably run afoul of both establishment and free exercise.

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nice talking to ya, Real Person!

[Wonkie]

if you bring in high-skill migrants, low-skill natives have more masters to service

[kyrobo]

I at least agree with the sentiment that allowing the formation of large enclaves divorced from societal norms is probably not desirable.

[kyrobo]

I'm not sure what that means, but hey back atcha.

[Jimjam]

You're not an idiot OP, so I am sure you are aware the party in government at the moment is the Conservative party.

Their modus operandi is selling of / contracting out public services to private companies. These companies are not appointed through any proper due process, rather through old boy networks (of institution private schools such as Eaton). The private companies then cannibalise/asset strip the service for shareholder profit. As the service continues to be gutted often the service goes from something that was profitable to the public sector to something that makes a loss supported by government subsidies.

Ie destroy a public service while channeling public money into private pockets.

It's a shame the party is a corrupt cartel; it would be nice if things were run to the real capitalist ideal; providers ensure a high quality service at affordable pricing through competition. Instead we are run like post soviet Russia; oligarchs being handed chunks of the country on a platter.