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Old 02-05-2019, 01:15 PM
Kye1709 Kye1709 is offline
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Being able to log in for a batphone and kill a dragon >5 minutes in some instances with your elf pals is the very definition of casual. Yes, there are those socking the shit out of targets to make this a reality, but thats their prerogative and they should be rewarded for the time spent no matter what you may think of their life choices/how they spend their time.

The argument that there were never FTE races, train ups, etc didn't exist in 99 and thus shouldn't be a thing now is laughable at best. Game mechanics can be controlled. How people interact with said mechanics on a progression locked server however, cannot. Obviously the way the game is played will evolve over time, especially with the level of knowledge regarding the aforementioned being so readily available.

This is a free to play server and nothing is owed to anyone. That said, outside of enforcing things like boxing and RMT and the like, GMs should have zero involvement. Let the player base self regulate and end the petition quest that brought us to this thread in the first place.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:20 PM
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This is a free to play server and nothing is owed to anyone. That said, outside of enforcing things like boxing and RMT and the like, GMs should have zero involvement. Let the player base self regulate and end the petition quest that brought us to this thread in the first place.

wouldn't that be nice! they love to see nerds suffer though.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:20 PM
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Being able to log in for a batphone and kill a dragon >5 minutes in some instances with your elf pals is the very definition of casual. Yes, there are those socking the shit out of targets to make this a reality, but thats their prerogative and they should be rewarded for the time spent no matter what you may think of their life choices/how they spend their time.

The argument that there were never FTE races, train ups, etc didn't exist in 99 and thus shouldn't be a thing now is laughable at best. Game mechanics can be controlled. How people interact with said mechanics on a progression locked server however, cannot. Obviously the way the game is played will evolve over time, especially with the level of knowledge regarding the aforementioned being so readily available.

This is a free to play server and nothing is owed to anyone. That said, outside of enforcing things like boxing and RMT and the like, GMs should have zero involvement. Let the player base self regulate and end the petition quest that brought us to this thread in the first place.
i like the part where you go from pro-casual to sockers deserve to be rewarded. pick one, jerk.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:22 PM
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i like the part where you go from pro-casual to sockers deserve to be rewarded. pick one, jerk.
Lol, I'm pro server where people can play however they wish as the game exists without GM interference [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:24 PM
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i like the part where you go from pro-casual to sockers deserve to be rewarded. pick one, jerk.
No one deserves loot what a twisted paradigm. If you put the time in you should be rewarded, like how every other merit based system works in the world and in games.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:24 PM
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Yes, there are those socking the shit out of targets to make this a reality, but thats their prerogative and they should be rewarded for the time spent no matter what you may think of their life choices/how they spend their time.
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This is a free to play server and nothing is owed to anyone.
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GMs should have zero involvement.
What a wild ride.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:34 PM
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What a wild ride.
I'll take Out of Context for 500 Alex.

I'll spell it out for you. Player A doesn't want to compete, sock, wall lick, whatever you want to call it, for pixels because game mechanics (or rather how the server population interacts with the mechanics currently) dictate thats the only way they can get them. Player B is willing to do the above. Player B is willing to play the game, gets reward. Player A, cries/whines until GM interferes and tries to make it "fair".

So, yea, nothing is owed to anyone outside of being able to play a video game they want to without GMs interfering because some other player thinks the way other people are playing the game is "unfair".

Get it?

If everyone got a medal just for "participating", this server would be dead already.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:44 PM
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I'll take Out of Context for 500 Alex.

I'll spell it out for you. Player A doesn't want to compete, sock, wall lick, whatever you want to call it, for pixels because game mechanics (or rather how the server population interacts with the mechanics currently) dictate thats the only way they can get them. Player B is willing to do the above. Player B is willing to play the game, gets reward. Player A, cries/whines until GM interferes and tries to make it "fair".

So, yea, nothing is owed to anyone outside of being able to play a video game they want to without GMs interfering because some other player thinks the way other people are playing the game is "unfair".

Get it?

If everyone got a medal just for "participating", this server would be dead already.
Some guilds are filled with 100% employed folks

Sorry you are not. (not sorry)
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I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals.
It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately.

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No one in A/A cares that you aren't getting pixels. In fact after the last suspension wave the attitude is to stop letting the casual guilds get anything even remotely of value.
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:46 PM
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Some guilds are filled with 100% employed folks

Sorry you are not. (not sorry)
I wonder what you look like irl
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Old 02-05-2019, 01:47 PM
Kye1709 Kye1709 is offline
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Some guilds are filled with 100% employed folks

Sorry you are not. (not sorry)
Lol at people making assumptions regarding others' RL circumstances. Sorry my job allows me to log in for bat phones and get pixels and yours doesn't?
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