The 'thousands of real dollars' thing in Eve was baloney. It may have been worth that to buy if you got all your isk from their version of game cards, but no one did that (and people who flew titans had plenty of old money in game to begin with) and anyways you couldn't *sell* for that so it was essentially worthless.
I don't buy the Eve is just as toxic argument though. Eve was meant from ground up to be a free for all where you're perfectly welcome to try these kinds of moves. It's not toxic if it's a legit part of the game. Some MMA fighter can beat the crap out of someone in the ring, but try that in a basketball game and you will get a different response. Same thing. I never found Eve toxic at all in game, though it had some loathsome people outside of it (Mittani).
The difference is here the endgame people have gotten it into their heads that EQ was supposed to be cutthroat competitive the same way, when it clearly wasn't. EQ had none of the systems required to make that kind of toxic competitiveness actually function. Revealingly, as it became more and more of a problem for CS when guilds simply wouldn't cooperate with each other, they didn't find ways to bring in an implementation - they simply got rid of it, instancing everything. Most of the assumptions by the 'hard core raiders' on this server are simply wrong and deliberately so, as they work tirelessly to maintain the toxic atmosphere they are comfortable in.
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