Chillwin trains BG, gets the boot outa ToV

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Daloon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aftermath hasn't done anything like that in years. We don't treat our members like it's North Korea. It's currently a 500 DKP dock by warm bodies in Tempest/Awakened if caught (I got hit with one and /guildremoved, best decision ever). Aftermath members are basically free to post whatever as long as they don't bash the staff.

If anything how Tempest treats their players would lower their GM faction. But we all know that such rules are just to prevent desertion. If your players are afraid to talk to anyone outside the guild then they'll assume the other raid guilds are as toxic.

Come over to South Korea and be free. Crossing the DMZ is as easy as visiting http://aftermath99.org
Soon both sides will be re-united in harmony.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anything how Tempest treats their players would lower their GM faction. But we all know that such rules are just to prevent desertion. If your players are afraid to talk to anyone outside the guild then they'll assume the other raid guilds are as toxic.

Come over to South Korea and be free. Crossing the DMZ is as easy as visiting http://aftermath99.org
Soon both sides will be re-united in harmony.

Black Pudding

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[Zal22]

Icrit Mypants. Lol

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've never set foot in ToV

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thats how they got trained tho, the halfling did it. chillwin was gonna make it just fine. say what you will about his hygiene, he made the right call.

Originally Posted by Frudrura [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chillwin did nothing wrong.

hehe

anyhoo, /wave @ Chillwin.

[aaezil]

Its true though despite AM trying to act all high and mighty and innocent on the forums lately they are still the scummiest scum of the server. Swiping epic pieces and classic raid mobs from lower guilds (just stay in tov seriously) - threatening them with petitions if they dont concede - angle shooting in every way possible to just barely not get banned. Never seen these folks play in the spirit of the play nice poilicy. Have a gander through the guild suspension forum if you doubt me - that tactic lands them in eq jail more often than not.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its true though despite AM trying to act all high and mighty and innocent on the forums lately they are still the scummiest scum of the server. Swiping epic pieces and classic raid mobs from lower guilds (just stay in tov seriously) - threatening them with petitions if they dont concede - angle shooting in every way possible to just barely not get banned. Never seen these folks play in the spirit of the play nice poilicy. Have a gander through the guild suspension forum if you doubt me - that tactic lands them in eq jail more often than not.

I’m in one of those Tier 2 guilds, and I will say that in the time I’ve been an officer, I’m not aware of AM asking for a concession that wasn’t justified by the rules. AM plays aggressive and in the gray areas of the rules, but they don’t lie about who they are, or what they’re doing. I’ve also seen them concede pretty much any time it’s a close call - even if that concession comes late. I’m not saying I like the way they play, but they are pretty transparent from my perspective.

I don’t blame them for going after lesser mobs that drop loot their members want (bladestoppers, VP, etc). I do wish they would be a little less stupidly aggressive about it sometimes and not run over people as often - but like I said above, they are incredibly transparent about their goals.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its true though despite AM trying to act all high and mighty and innocent on the forums lately they are still the scummiest scum of the server. Swiping epic pieces and classic raid mobs from lower guilds (just stay in tov seriously) - threatening them with petitions if they dont concede - angle shooting in every way possible to just barely not get banned. Never seen these folks play in the spirit of the play nice poilicy. Have a gander through the guild suspension forum if you doubt me - that tactic lands them in eq jail more often than not.

This is a toxic/incorrect outlook.

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m in one of those Tier 2 guilds, and I will say that in the time I’ve been an officer, I’m not aware of AM asking for a concession that wasn’t justified by the rules. AM plays aggressive and in the gray areas of the rules, but they don’t lie about who they are, or what they’re doing. I’ve also seen them concede pretty much any time it’s a close call - even if that concession comes late. I’m not saying I like the way they play, but they are pretty transparent from my perspective.

I don’t blame them for going after lesser mobs that drop loot their members want (bladestoppers, VP, etc). I do wish they would be a little less stupidly aggressive about it sometimes and not run over people as often - but like I said above, they are incredibly transparent about their goals.

Dead on.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m in one of those Tier 2 guilds.

*clears throat* begins speaking in Elder Dragon legalese,

!THUNDERS!

-100 DKP dock for posting in RNF

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[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Mblake1981 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

*clears throat* begins speaking in Elder Dragon legalese,

!THUNDERS!

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Can confirm, dragon law is hard. Source: am lawyer.

[Kluwen2]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I’m in one of those Tier 2 guilds, and I will say that in the time I’ve been an officer, I’m not aware of AM asking for a concession that wasn’t justified by the rules. AM plays aggressive and in the gray areas of the rules, but they don’t lie about who they are, or what they’re doing. I’ve also seen them concede pretty much any time it’s a close call - even if that concession comes late. I’m not saying I like the way they play, but they are pretty transparent from my perspective.

I don’t blame them for going after lesser mobs that drop loot their members want (bladestoppers, VP, etc). I do wish they would be a little less stupidly aggressive about it sometimes and not run over people as often - but like I said above, they are incredibly transparent about their goals.