Enchanter Spell Gems

[kjs86z]

Ah yes, the precalm.

I only produce the finest precalm.

[Xaeophi]

Havent used root in years.

[fastboy21]

My setup:

1: swap slot (when moving around a dungeon, calm always goes here)
2: AE Mez
3: Fetter
4: Tash
5: AE Stun
6: Dazzle
7: Charm
8: Theft of Thought (or second swap slot if not fighting casters)

Playing chanter usually requires very frequent spell swapping mid combat. The top slot with instant cast refresh can help speed that up.

At lower levels or in fights that might be won or lost by landing a mez you probably benefit from the extra safety of having a mez spell in the top slot. I think I did this for most of my time leveling. At higher levels it rarely matters for me, but I'm generally fighting relatively safe cash camps.

For my necro, 100% I keep screaming terror (necro mez) in the top slot.

[fastboy21]

Just to be clear I think there is some confusion about the difference between GCD and the recast timer.

The GCD is the period where you can not start casting a spell because it is greyed out after a cast. Hitting the instant click item doesn't do anything other than "ungrey" the top gem slot, which will allow you to start casting it again. **NOTE that the ability to start casting the spell doesn't give you the ability to finish casting the spell**

The recast time is the minimum amount of time between finishing casting a spell twice. When you cast a spell the recast timer begins ticking when you finish casting. The check is made when you finish the second casting. If the timer value on the finish of the second casting is less than the recast timer then the spell will work, else you get the spell error.

The result appears to be that if you have a spell with less than the GCD as the recast timer you can chain cast it, but this only actually happens AS LONG AS WHEN YOU FINISH CASTING THE RECAST TIMER IS MET. This is why if you try to "chain cast" a fast casting spell (try Tashanian) you'll get the error message: spell cast is 1 which means you'll finish your second casting before the recast timer is met (2.25 secs for tash) and get the error.

In other words you can't ever beat the recast timer check unless there is a bug floating around that I don't see.

In the example of dementia:
The spell cast time is 6
The recast time is 8

When you load the spell into first slot it is greyed out for 8 seconds then you can cast.

If you hit the instant cast item it will ungrey and you can begin casting it right away, but you get the error. (0 seconds waiting + 6 second cast = 6 seconds (recast timer check fails >>> spell doesn't work)

You need to wait 2 seconds. Waiting 2 seconds + 6 second cast = 8 seconds (recast timer check succeeds and spell will work).

[fastboy21]

In the example of your wizard,

Pillar of Frost =
4.5 casting time
6 recast timer

You only need to wait 1.5 seconds after hitting your insta click to start casting the nuke successfully. Which is close to what you described.

Cast PoF >>> Instant Click >>> **0 sec wait** >>> Cast PoF = Failed Recast timer (0 + 4.5 secs < 6 secs)
Cast PoF >>> Instant Click >>> ** 1.5 sec wait >>> Cast PoF = Success Recast timer (1.5 + 4.5 secs = 6 secs)

The result is that the amount of time I have to wait between "chain casting" different spells is different (2 secs for dementia, 1.5 secs for PoF, e.g.), but the reason for this has to do with the relative gap between their arbitrary cast times and recast timers...you aren't just chopping off the GCD as most people think.

[Crede]

There's no confusion between the two. My reply was in response to your post saying that the clicky trick merely resets the 2.25 gcd. I'm aware of that but since the thread was about the slot 1 trick specifically I was disputing the fact that it only saves you 2.25 seconds of casting time. It seems you did some further research and the 1.5 seems about right with the recast timer met in the case of Pillar of Frost.

But you had originally indicated that slot 1 doesn't work for these other types of spells (Dementia, Dazzle, etc.), which it does because normally you'd have to wait the full 6 seconds to even begin recasting in any other spell slot even with an insta clicky.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you had originally indicated that slot 1 doesn't work for these other types of spells (Dementia, Dazzle, etc.), which it does because normally you'd have to wait the full 6 seconds to even begin recasting in any other spell slot even with an insta clicky.

Yah, I never said that. You misunderstood what I was saying.

It is pretty obvious that putting stuff in the first slot with an instant clicky is beneficial, even if one doesn't understand why or do the math on each spell.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's no confusion between the two.

It wasn't meant for you. Other people read these threads. I'm glad you have no confusion.