Raid Scene - A RnF Repost

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's time for a rotation

[Nexii]

Training would be where another guild was substantially hindered by your train. Such as killing part or all of another guild's raid force. Yea it's subjective, but typically it's really obvious. If it's not obvious then it's probably no foul.

Again though training would be much less an issue if raid mobs could just be fought on their spawn point. The tracker rule hasn't served its purpose to reduce socking. All priority targets are instant engaged regardless.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Training would be where another guild was substantially hindered by your train. Such as killing part or all of another guild's raid force. Yea it's subjective, but typically it's really obvious. If it's not obvious then it's probably no foul.

Key words like this are the problem with Raid Scene rules. You add that in and suddenly every Guild Leader is arguing that whatever happens was not 'substantial' and certainly never intentional. I ve lost count how many times I was told by opposing Officer/Leaders that whatever infraction we were claiming was not significant enough because of a variety of observations they would have such as how many clerics logged in or whether we had a tank present.

Guild Leaders will take a mile if you give them an inch. We can't leave things up for interpretation is my main point here or we will suffer from the same mistakes.

[bspa0700]

I'd love to give my opinion, but we haven't gotten to a point that the community can trust that open, honest conversation about the rules of the server won't be met with a permaban.

[aaezil]

detoxx response so scummy of course the zerg lord wants it to be the wild west of everquest lets see how many more warmbodies can fit into AM

[Nexii]

Why not just have everyone in one guild? What's the difference between that and splitting up the loot amongst many guilds?

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not just have everyone in one guild? What's the difference between that and splitting up the loot amongst many guilds?

Do not raid with autistic man-children thanks for offer though

[Vallaen]

If you dont raid why do you care about the raid scene?

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Vallaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you dont raid why do you care about the raid scene?

I do raid, and in a guild that has never been suspended or had officers banned for RMT! And will continue that way...

Maybe its the players that are broken and not the gms/rules? Go figure.

[Gimp]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do raid, and in a guild that has never been suspended or had officers banned for RMT! And will continue that way...

Maybe its the players that are broken and not the gms/rules? Go figure.

The only thing that will ever "fix" P99 is rotated content, but it'll never happen. The current state of frothy neckbeards is too entrenched, much in thanks to our dearly departed ex-GM.

At one point, there was a ruleset that allowed smaller guilds a small chance at competing for big mobs, but that changed when a certain guild started making too much noise, so the rules changed to favor the two big dogs.

Sirkenquest was a real thing, and hopefully the community can find some way to fix the top-end raiding, but I think it's far, far too late for that.