Your opinions: class preference to each race

[Briq]

Barbarian - Shaman/Warrior
Dwarf - Cleric/Warrior
Dark elf - Necromancer/Shadow Knight
Erudite - Magician/Wizard
Gnome - Wizard/Enchanter
Halfling - Druid/Cleric
Half elf - Ranger/Paladin
High elf - Enchanter/Paladin
Iksar - Monk/Shaman
Human - Monk
Ogre - Warrior/Shadow Knight
Troll - Shadow Knight/Shaman
Wood Elf - Druid/Bard

[Zuranthium]

It's better to use a brawl stick and cannibalize inbetween swings or medidate-canni dance if not in melee. Even besides that, there many long-cast spells you need to be doing anyway as a Shaman. You don't have that much time to use JBB. MOBs don't need "super cold resist" to bring down the damage against JBB either, just a regular resist rate on typical content a 60 Shaman would be trying to solo or single group is enough to significantly cut into the damage.

Even if the JBB might end up being marginally better than spending your time on cannibalize + melee/meditate, remember that Iksar have innate AC bonus, which means they are mitigating more damage than a Troll when face tanking. Trolls also get slam, but on the whole I would rate AC bonus as stronger. So then the only factor remaining is the snare clicky Trolls get, which isn't that great IMO. It's a 6 second cast for a low duration, low percentage snare. Not something that can be relied upon or used too efficiently.

[Nixtar]

It really doesn't matter much. Either you use the JBB to its strengths or if you are ikky you enjoy AC/regen and should maximise that aspect instead.

[ScottBerta]

The question should be which race is best for each class... and then we would see a lot of these races not on the list at all. For example, there are a lot of barb shamans on this list... which in fact is actually the worst race for shaman but because Iksar, Troll, and Ogre have already been given some other class Barb is left for shaman.

[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by ScottBerta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The question should be which race is best for each class... and then we would see a lot of these races not on the list at all. For example, there are a lot of barb shamans on this list... which in fact is actually the worst race for shaman but because Iksar, Troll, and Ogre have already been given some other class Barb is left for shaman.

No, I didn't want it to end up like that because i wanted it to be 1 race 1 class. The reason why people chose barb for shaman isn't because of what you said but because they were very popular pre Kunark race class combo and they have a wolf helm

[Crawdad]

Originally Posted by ScottBerta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The question should be which race is best for each class....

[Shaniril]

Barbarian = Shaman
Dwarf = Cleric
Dark elf = Shadowknight
Erudite = Wizard
Gnome = magician
Halfling = druid
Half elf = bard
High elf = Enchanter
Iksar = monk
Human = Paladin
Ogre = warrior
Troll = shaman
Wood elf = Bard

[Baler]

Human is probably the worst race min/max wise, correct?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Human is probably the worst race min/max wise, correct?

Or maybe half-elf. Never done stat crunching for either but neither has any redeemable qualities besides stats, and I suspect they're both the worst race for at least one class stat-wise.

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's better to use a brawl stick and cannibalize inbetween swings or medidate-canni dance if not in melee. Even besides that, there many long-cast spells you need to be doing anyway as a Shaman. You don't have that much time to use JBB.

You're not wrong that even in melee I cann/Torpor a lot to recover mana. But take a camp like NG. When I'm killing the scarabs, I want them dead as quickly as possible, so I can get new scarabs and more gems faster.

If I cann/torpor in combat for mana I don't need that just slows my scarab-killing down, whereas if I use my JBB that speeds it up. After the fight, when there are no more scarabs to kill, I can cann/torpor or med all I want.

When fighting something harder I may well need more mana to cast more Torpors to keep myself alive, and then I can't take advantage of the JBB to speed things up as much. Or, again, if the mobs have high cold resist. I freely admit that it's circumstantial, but for some fights the JBB is absolutely still useful at 60.

[Quizlop]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Human is probably the worst race min/max wise, correct?

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or maybe half-elf. Never done stat crunching for either but neither has any redeemable qualities besides stats, and I suspect they're both the worst race for at least one class stat-wise.

Humans have the best starting stats for Rangers and maybe Bards. Human Clerics of Inny have pretty good access to special clickies, and can wear robes. They're pretty much the worst race for any Int caster, and I guess they're the worst Monks because there's only one other option. Other than that, they're pretty average for every other class.

Half elves are the worst Druids, because their Wisdom is just abysmal. Their stats aren't particularly exciting for most classes, Bards excepted. However, they do have access to the +20 MR HEF only mask from Inny, awesome for anyone.