P99 Enchanter Strike

[tristantio]

Originally Posted by Nanto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, what's this, concrete evidence that charm isn't supposed to last for 5 seconds total, even on a bad roll?

Can we get a GM response on this if it's not too much trouble?

You realize the minimum durations are the spell durations that are increased as you level right? All those can still break early due to a failed resist check.

[Beauregard]

My charms breaks within 5 seconds 40-50% of the time, is this classic?

[Nanto]

Originally Posted by Beauregard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My charms breaks within 5 seconds 40-50% of the time, is this classic?

[EkireiTheNecro]

This thread BOGGLES MY MIND.

Charm almost **NEVER** lasted full duration during classic era. Not for a chanter with 255 CHA etc.

What exactly makes you chanters think that you're entitled to constant full-duration charms!?

YOU'RE NOT A PET CLASS -- HELL YOU'RE NOT EVEN A DPS CLASS. Charmed pets turn your chanter into THE BEST pet class in the game, and one of the best DPS classes. Charm having a random duration is to BALANCE this fact.

God I wish I had known charm was full duration on P99....I would have rolled a chanter instantly. It's funny...cuz I asked COUNTLESS chanters that I saw charming "hey...how long do your charms usually last?"

They almost always said "not very long...its unreliable." Then I would sit there and watch them kill mobs for another 5 minutes without a single charm break. Obviously they were trying to keep it very hush-hush because they KNEW it wasn't balanced and/or accurate to 1999.

[nalkin]

Originally Posted by EkireiTheNecro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread BOGGLES MY MIND.

Charm almost **NEVER** lasted full duration during classic era. Not for a chanter with 255 CHA etc.

What exactly makes you chanters think that you're entitled to constant full-duration charms!?

YOU'RE NOT A PET CLASS -- HELL YOU'RE NOT EVEN A DPS CLASS. Charmed pets turn your chanter into THE BEST pet class in the game, and one of the best DPS classes. Charm having a random duration is to BALANCE this fact.

God I wish I had known charm was full duration on P99....I would have rolled a chanter instantly. It's funny...cuz I asked COUNTLESS chanters that I saw charming "hey...how long do your charms usually last?"

They almost always said "not very long...its unreliable." Then I would sit there and watch them kill mobs for another 5 minutes without a single charm break. Obviously they were trying to keep it very hush-hush because they KNEW it wasn't balanced and/or accurate to 1999.

Not sure how long you've been playing here, but if you think 10min long durations were crazy you should have seen it pre-whirl till you hurl nerf. Now that was crazy because you could completely stun lock a mob for an entire fight in addition to having a super OPed pet that you didn't have to worry about charm breaking with. (Don't forget lull/mez either).

Its funny that you brought that up, because I was high level mage in kedge when I started to notice enchanters and thought about making one because of all the above factors but figured theyd get the big ol nerf sooner or later.

[redghosthunter]

Its funny how many people actually log in to bash someone Vs. How many people will actually log in to talk about an issue.

If ya read what was written earlier the purpose of this thread was to discuss Charm post April update. Much ATTENTION was brought to the issue. I mentioned a page or 2 ago that all the issues were brought out and i felt that

---- THE THREAD TOPIC ---- was covered.

I've listed how in 2001 charm was done. By Spell Formula, and Spell Duration. As usual the harpies of the server are trying to derail a perfectly good thread

I will further make a thread so you can personally attack me.

[redghosthunter]

Originally Posted by Sorrow*qc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Charm Line
In the high level zones, the PoP spell lineup (lvl 61+) given to chanters is extremely powerful for charm soloing. The key spells being Arcane Rune, Word of Morrell, and our new Charms. The selection in the lower level spells for charming are a little more limited, but still effective.

It is important to be aware of the casting time, your level limits, and in special cases the duration, of the Charm spell being used. From the following list you should be able to find the charm spell currently in your range and select the appropriate one for the level of mobs that you will be charming:

Charm (Up to Level 12) - *Brainwashing 101*
Casting Time: 2.4 Seconds
Duration: 4.6 min (@ Level 12) to 20.5 min (@ Level 65)

Beguile (Up to Level 37) - *Look into my eyes…*
Casting Time: 3.5 Seconds
Duration: 8.2 min (@ Level 24) to 20.5 min (@ Level 65)

Cajoling Whispers (Up to Level 45) - *That was just what we call pillow talk baby*
Casting Time: 5.5 Seconds
Duration: 12.7 min (@ Level 39) to 20.5 min (@ Level 65)

Allure (Up to Level 51) - *Oooo sparkly..*
Casting Time: 6 Seconds
Duration: 15.7 min (@ Level 49) to 20.5 min (@ Level 65)

Boltarn's Agacerie (Up to Level 53) - *Lemme buy you a drink and try some of Boltran's pickup lines*
Casting Time: 4 Seconds
Duration: 6.3 min (@ Level 53) to 7.5 min (@ Level 65)

Dictate (Up to Level 58) - *48 Seconds on the Soapbox remaining before the rotten tomatoes incoming*
Casting Time: 2.4 Seconds
Duration: 48 Seconds Fixed

Beckon (Up to Level 57) - *Mmmmmm Duff beer..*
Casting Time: 2.4 Seconds
Duration: 7.2 min (@ Level 62) to 7.5 min (@ Level 65)

Command of Druzzil (Up to Level 63) - *”Get in the kitchen and make me some PIE!"*
Casting Time: 2.4 Seconds
Duration: 7.4 min (@ Level 64) to 7.5 min (@ Level 65)

thats some information from live servers enchanter guide website The rune

This brought a hearty laugh.... Get in the kitchen and make me some PIE! hahah

[Vendar]

Originally Posted by Sorrow*qc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Charm Line
In the high level zones, the PoP spell lineup (lvl 61+) given to chanters is extremely powerful for charm soloing. The key spells being Arcane Rune, Word of Morrell, and our new Charms. The selection in the lower level spells for charming are a little more limited, but still effective.

It is important to be aware of the casting time, your level limits, and in special cases the duration, of the Charm spell being used. From the following list you should be able to find the charm spell currently in your range and select the appropriate one for the level of mobs that you will be charming:

Charm (Up to Level 12) - *Brainwashing 101*
Casting Time: 2.4 Seconds
Duration: 4.6 min (@ Level 12) to 20.5 min (@ Level 65)

Beguile (Up to Level 37) - *Look into my eyes…*
Casting Time: 3.5 Seconds
Duration: 8.2 min (@ Level 24) to 20.5 min (@ Level 65)

Cajoling Whispers (Up to Level 45) - *That was just what we call pillow talk baby*
Casting Time: 5.5 Seconds
Duration: 12.7 min (@ Level 39) to 20.5 min (@ Level 65)

Allure (Up to Level 51) - *Oooo sparkly..*
Casting Time: 6 Seconds
Duration: 15.7 min (@ Level 49) to 20.5 min (@ Level 65)

Boltarn's Agacerie (Up to Level 53) - *Lemme buy you a drink and try some of Boltran's pickup lines*
Casting Time: 4 Seconds
Duration: 6.3 min (@ Level 53) to 7.5 min (@ Level 65)

Dictate (Up to Level 58) - *48 Seconds on the Soapbox remaining before the rotten tomatoes incoming*
Casting Time: 2.4 Seconds
Duration: 48 Seconds Fixed

Beckon (Up to Level 57) - *Mmmmmm Duff beer..*
Casting Time: 2.4 Seconds
Duration: 7.2 min (@ Level 62) to 7.5 min (@ Level 65)

Command of Druzzil (Up to Level 63) - *”Get in the kitchen and make me some PIE!"*
Casting Time: 2.4 Seconds
Duration: 7.4 min (@ Level 64) to 7.5 min (@ Level 65)

thats some information from live servers enchanter guide website The rune

thanks for the PoP line up =P

chanters are working as intended, welcome to classic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[guineapig]

Pretty sure you had one on page 2:

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lost charm? No.. it just breaks randomly like it should..... etc

[Sorrow*qc]

even before the nerf i could get some bad charm duration, i dont see why ppl are saying we were getting full durations, i saw some druids get some 15 mins charm, but as a chanter i could get 5 mins , maybe 10 if i was lucky with 205 cha and thats pre nerf