monk q: 1-hs or 2-hs for duoing?

[Edzilla]

Originally Posted by Rayge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was surprised when I asked around also. from what I gather, 1-h monk is more popular than 2-h, and demand drove the price of teh trance sticks up. Plus there are lots of 2-hb options that are competitive with Qstaffs, where trance sticks are basically 'the' pre raid 1-hb as far as I can tell.



trance sticks proc at 35, which also is the level I will get riposte at iirc, so both weapons will see a boost at 35.

Aye, it's all about price ranges. Most people can afford 1-2k for alts on weapons. People aren't going to throw down 10k+ for jade maces and KDs, unless they're pretty well off. So, Trance sticks are pretty popular. Everyone wants to duel wield as a monk, and thats another reason sticks cost about the same as Qstaffs.

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by Rayge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was surprised when I asked around also. from what I gather, 1-h monk is more popular than 2-h, and demand drove the price of teh trance sticks up. Plus there are lots of 2-hb options that are competitive with Qstaffs, where trance sticks are basically 'the' pre raid 1-hb as far as I can tell.

Well there are kind of three tiers of 1HB options atm, which is resulting in the Trance Stick popularity:

Low-end : 2x Trance Sticks (4-5k for pair)

Mid-range : MH Jade Mace, OH Knuckle Duster (~17k-20k together)

High-end : MH Adam club, OH Stave of Shielding (~37k-45k together)

Compare this to the 2HB market for Monks:

Low-end : Wu's Quivering (~2-2.5k?)

Mid-end : Runed Fighters Staff (~50k I think I saw one for atm)

High-end : Tstaff (Still ~100k-120k?)

There are a variety of options, I always kind of thought of Kunark as the "Monk X-Pac". The relative price levels are causing huge demand for the lower-end items.

[Rayge]

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a variety of options, I always kind of thought of Kunark as the "Monk X-Pac". The relative price levels are causing huge demand for the lower-end items.

oh,, duh completely forgot jade mace/knuckleduster lol. They're a touch out of my price range atm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[soup]

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well there are kind of three tiers of 1HB options atm, which is resulting in the Trance Stick popularity:

Low-end : 2x Trance Sticks (4-5k for pair)

Mid-range : MH Jade Mace, OH Knuckle Duster (~17k-20k together)

High-end : MH Adam club, OH Stave of Shielding (~37k-45k together)

Compare this to the 2HB market for Monks:

Low-end : Wu's Quivering (~2-2.5k?)

Mid-end : Runed Fighters Staff (~50k I think I saw one for atm)

High-end : Tstaff (Still ~100k-120k?)

There are a variety of options, I always kind of thought of Kunark as the "Monk X-Pac". The relative price levels are causing huge demand for the lower-end items.

Don't forget about Peacebringer for 2HB options.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't forget about Peacebringer for 2HB options.

Seriously. Peacebringer is always underestimated. One of those great pre- T-staff weapons my monk on live used.

[Rejuvenation]

To put it in perspective, Adamantite Club MH with Trance stick offhand barely out-DPSed my Baton of faith (30/40 2hb) at level 30.

Get the quivering staff.

[Rayge]

thanks everyone, I've gone out and gotten a quivering 2-h at bargain price. I'm looking forward to wrecking things with it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kender]

i ddi some parsing last night. level 38 monk with no haste

using quivering vs wu's MH and tranq OH

well the damage varied quite alot from fight to fight, but overall the quivering was outdamaged by the trancer/cane of tranq combo

the 2 weapon combo was just far more consistant. misses hurt the 2hb alot, and unless you got lucky with a series of repostes it just couln't keep up on a regular basis

I think part of the issue might be the fact that on live monks get a bonus to 1hb and 2hb over the base 5*lvl +5 that we get here. the extra 20 points would mean less misses with the 2hb and therefore flatten out the difference.

of course against DS mobs there is no comparison, and when you can use resposte discipline, 2hb will be godly. just at this lower level the damage bonus on 2hb isn't enough to warrent it. the price comparison however make it wuite good


adamantite bo stick is AWESOME aainst giants. i used one in WW at the fort, and with lucky procs i could drop a giant in seconds. the ae doesn't touch you it you stand at max melee range

[toddfx]

How do you guys feel about Fighting Batons?

For the monk on a budget, how reasonable is it to use 2x of them at level 40+? I had been using my fists since level 30 but recently grabbed this pair when I saw them at a very bargain price (combined total of 500pp).

I realize the proc of Wu's Trance Stick is great and the weight is halved, but would you say the Fighting Batons are a decent alternative?

I don't make much money nor do a level very quickly, and my current savings will hopefully be going to an FBSS. My gut tells me to keep saving rather than drain half of it on Trance sticks when I was able to spend so little on these Batons which feel pretty swift as-is.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by toddfx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you guys feel about Fighting Batons?

For the monk on a budget, how reasonable is it to use 2x of them at level 40+? I had been using my fists since level 30 but recently grabbed this pair when I saw them at a very bargain price (combined total of 500pp).

I realize the proc of Wu's Trance Stick is great and the weight is halved, but would you say the Fighting Batons are a decent alternative?

I don't make much money nor do a level very quickly, and my current savings will hopefully be going to an FBSS. My gut tells me to keep saving rather than drain half of it on Trance sticks when I was able to spend so little on these Batons which feel pretty swift as-is.

I second this question. I appreciate the post earlier of low/mid/high costs for weapon combos. Like you, I'm just using fists, and whatever gear I'm wearing has been stuff that I've looted. And just in general, being a non-twink / non-alt Monk, getting any of this fancy-pants gear is a pain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]