Spells: Dispel system is so screwed up...

[Mr.Specter]

Originally Posted by Pezy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going by Haynar's post, if you have two single counter buffs (like see invis and an illusion for example), an annul cast should never get beyond those into your stronger buffs that you intended to have protected against dispels. This just isn't the case though, hence the frustration of many. Have 4 single counter buffs at the top of your buff bar should protect you against having things like aegos and skins dispelled, but it doesn't.

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[jpetrick]

I keep up 8 junk buffs (monk epic, ring 10, 5 flowers, see invis bracer) and will still have buffs dispelled from my 9th slot or lower at times. This seems fucked.

[Erati]

Players assuming “junk” buffs default to the lowest buff counter here on p99 is the issue, however I feel it needs to be looked into w more evidence how clickies are calculated in terms of buff counters. Pezy describes it well but the problem is See Invis and illusion buffs have too large of range of counters to roll so they inadvertently will sometimes have more counters than lvl 60 buff spells which should not be the case. Clickies should always roll a lower amount of counters and be easier to get dispelled than casted high level spells, Im almost positive the level of the spell factors here and clickies usually feature low level spells or default a low spell level.

Thats the crux of issue tho, clicky buffs roll too high of a counter and thusly appear to be “ignored” on dispells like annul magic which applies dispell to multiple slots.

[Erati]

The system works as constructed, the problem is Haynar stated clickies do not by defaut roll a 1 for their buff counters. We need research on this aspect as I am fairly certain the level of the spell should factor in the type of buff counter roll allowable.

For example, it makes more sense that sub lvl 30 spells (which most clickies will reside in) should roll something like 1-5 while lvl 60 spells should have higher base rolls like 6-10 and can never roll a 1. I strongly feel high level spells should not roll equally in terms of buff counters w a lvl 10 buff regardless if its a click or not. If that wrinkle gets changed, players can keep their buffs tidy again.

Need more research in this area pls!

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Kinaki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After receiving buffs, manually click off your first two buffs (ostensibly your dummy buffs) and reapply. Problem solved in 95% of situations; the key to p99 is getting around its wonkiness, rather than waiting for a patch in the year 2525.

this is not actually factually correct in terms of the mechanics of dispell however this trick will fix the client buff order bug that does result in some odd dispell behavior.

Even if you do as above, you can still roll high buff counter rolls n have a dispell skip over the top few buffs, but at least they will be in an accurate order in terms of client display