P99 Sky Agreement - why its bad for the server

[deezy]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you imagine eating a ban cause you're contesting Thunder Princess or some shit? Lol. Seriously though why do people care about fucking sky it's sooooooooo boring...even by EQ standards.

GM enforced rotation is probably so more people don't bore themselves to death.

keeper of souls is the reason

[Swish2]

Enable it, and if a guild chooses not to PvP well then that's their loss.

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by coverjudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clue would be much farther in PoSky if the kittens who say meow led paradigm shift raids would stop wiping on island 2

That message lacks substance, I'm sure you were about to add a youtube link to fraps footage or screenshots.

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by coverjudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hah, I don't raid sky, son. I'm sure there's plenty who know about Skuc joining kittens and PS wiping on island 2 this weekend...
Let's lack some more substance....BONUS...guess who warmed up for a sky wipe with a vindi wipe this weekend? Hint: it actually wasn't AM

Who the fuck cares?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Perissh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That fact that people think its OK to say they someone should have to join a different guild to do Sky, is absolutely retarded.

What about the fact that you have to join a different guild to do Sleeper's Tomb? Veeshan's Peak? Kill Yelinak or Tormax? Is that "absolutely retarded" also?

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about the fact that you have to join a different guild to do Sleeper's Tomb? Veeshan's Peak? Kill Yelinak or Tormax? Is that "absolutely retarded" also?

This entire thread is absolutely retarded, that's for sure. 13 pages in and still not a single guild named that needs a sky slot (and for some reason can't take one of the 3 open slots), but we keep hearing "BUT WHAT IF A GUILD WANTS A SLOT?!?!!11"

If you want to raid sky, ask for one of the open slots or join a guild that has a slot. Otherwise you're complaining just to complain.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Perissh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are ST, VP, Yelinak, and Tormax all set to be rotated by only certain guilds and if you engage them and aren't in those guilds you're breaking a rule?

Practically speaking you need to change guilds to do any of the content I listed; it doesn't matter whether it's because of a GM-enforced player-made agreement or because only a few guilds have the people and knowledge: either way it's the same net effect ...

... well, except that if you want to do top content there are only two or three options to choose from, whereas if you want to do Sky there are like ten.

The point is, guilds aren't just social clubs. You join a raid guild in EQ to join a team that's taking on multiplayer content. If you pick a team that can't take on top content, then you can't take on top content unless you change teams. It's very simple and it's not at all unfair.

Similarly if you want to raid Sky, but you're in an entirely hypothetical guild which doesn't want to take an open slot, doesn't want to wait for a new open slot, and doesn't want to work together with any existing Sky guild, then you also have to change teams.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Perissh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That fact that people think its OK to say they someone should have to join a different guild to do Sky, is absolutely retarded.

No one said this. I did say that OP should join a guild with a slot that he likes or negotiate for a slot that he likes, but not that anyone should have to. I also said that FFA days is an interesting idea though probably not one that would achieve the results he's hoping for. I'd probably vote in favor of FFA days just to see what would happen, but as already stated P99 is not a democracy - staff would have to be on board and pick the FFA days and wait for whichever guilds are slotted on those days to fall off the rotation, which could take years even if that system was put in place today.

So yeah, maybe the rotation has its flaws and some FFA sky time would be good for the server. But as retarded as it may or may not be, opting to boot some guilds off of a longstanding rotation to wedge in those days would be infinitely retardeder.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Perissh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That fact that people think its OK to say they someone should have to join a different guild to do Sky, is absolutely retarded.

No one said this. I did say that OP should join a guild with a slot that he likes or negotiate for a slot that he likes, but not that anyone should have to. I also said that FFA days is an interesting idea though probably not one that would achieve the results he's hoping for. I'd probably vote in favor of FFA days just to see what would happen, but as already stated P99 is not a democracy - staff would have to be on board and pick the FFA days and wait for whichever guilds are slotted on those days to fall off the rotation, which could take years even if that system was put in place today.

So yeah, maybe the rotation has its flaws and some FFA sky time would be good for the server. But as retarded as it may or may not be, opting to boot some guilds off of a longstanding rotation to wedge in those days would be infinitely retardeder.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by SiouxNation [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don’t use it, you lose it.

I like that.

Agreed,

Joining a player agreement that you are going to use sky every week, then habitually not using it, is breaking a player agreement and depriving other good p99ers of an opportunity to use the zone, which could be construed as monopolisation.