Discussion about what constitutes a camp and how to hold a camp

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Menden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Crypt issues infuriate me. People get petty over dumb stuff, honestly guys, if someone/duo/group/whatever is at spot 17 and is keeping all the mobs down, leave them be. I mean, the area could be viewed like the HHK goblins as multiple camps, but in reality it's just a douche move. A Guide/GM could interpret it as a single camp or multiple so you are taking a risk contesting that area, every situation is different.

For dungeons, we tell folks agro range/LOS. This works for almost everything. The exceptions could be KC Captain or seb king/crypt. If there's people there, just go somewhere else. Don't be douche.

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[ghimmhala]

Here is one that I know is true.

Monk A is camping Nobles and Bards in HHK for hours.
Monk B shows up and wants Bards or nobles.
Monk A has to chose which he wants to camp Nobles or Bards.

[Legidias]

Trick question, Shaman mafia has all nobles and bards camped

[MagpieRockyl]

Tepp Is p o s
No one even mom like him
Real loser clearly

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by MagpieRockyl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tepp Is p o s
No one even mom like him
Real loser clearly

Looks like skarlorn is so obsessed he can’t help but work on ban #2 within the same month as ban #1. I wonder what’s the point staff says it’s not worth the trouble anymore and makes it a perm.

[Argh]

Lol good job clearing this up guys.

[aaezil]

if a player or group is holding a <word we refuse to define> and another group wants to contest a <word we refuse to define>, then its really anyones guess since its <undefined>

[Tuurin]

Originally Posted by aaezil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if a player or group is holding a <word we refuse to define> and another group wants to contest a <word we refuse to define>, then its really anyones guess since its <undefined>

Ok, so your preference is that the CS staff define every single camp in every single zone in the game? The official policy is already posted in the wiki and a guide has already commented in this thread with about as much clarity as necessary for any rational adult.

If you want instanced dungeons or something, there are a number of games out there that offer that. This is CLASSIC EVERQUEST. It's an open world game. You have to talk to people and/or compromise sometimes. The "don't be a douche" guideline is really all that should be necessary most of the time.

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by Tuurin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, so your preference is that the CS staff define every single camp in every single zone in the game? The official policy is already posted in the wiki and a guide has already commented in this thread with about as much clarity as necessary for any rational adult.

If you want instanced dungeons or something, there are a number of games out there that offer that. This is CLASSIC EVERQUEST. It's an open world game. You have to talk to people and/or compromise sometimes. The "don't be a douche" guideline is really all that should be necessary most of the time.

No... Thats not what i would suggest at all.

What i would suggest is something that's at least consistent throghout the game. For example in some zones a camp is 1 spawn, in some zones its as many as 20+ (CE). For some "camps" you are only "required" (changes by gm mood) to kill the named and not the surrounding mobs while for other "camps" (like lucan) you are required to keep the surrounding mobs clear even though he is not a PH and the other mobs have nothing to so do with the quest at all. Its just a bunch of arbitrary rulings that you can never be sure on.

Since this information is not written anywhere easily accessible (hidden in 40 pages of gm rulings for all sorts of "special" mobs) nor is it consistent between zones/"camps" we have many more rules laywers and petitons that could all be avoided.

Would love to see some sort of solution

[Sguchi]

-trys to hold back laughter-

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