Project 2002 Plug

[Shrubwise]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really think it was common for people in 1999 to pay for:

2x PCs (a good enough one to run EQ was at least $1000 back then) +
2 x $50 (EQ installations) +
2x $19.99/month (dial-up connections) +
2x $14.99/month EQ subscriptions (or was it $19.99? I forget, it's been awhile)

... a minimum of $2100 + $70 a month ... back when the standard price of a game was one $50 payment and no monthly fees?

I'm not saying it didn't happen: I've often related how friends of mine would box (in 1999-2001) using each other's accounts (only one person I knew owned two accounts, and he was ... particularly well off) and a computer gaming cybercafe that had both a T1 line and top-of-the-line computers ... but we were far from the norm. If you played back then and actually talked to people in-game you'd know that boxing was definitely uncommon in the classic era.

P.S. Of course other servers aren't "classic-only", but the point is still relevant because even if you want to play Luclin or PoP, your perception of "how EQ should be" was shaped during the classic era. Plus, although it was definitely a lot more common by then, even in PoP boxing still wasn't exactly common.

I think it is hard for most of us, now, to imagine folks paying that much to box back in 1999, because, most of us at the time were in our late childhood/early teens and didn’t have a job, or any money to speak of. Certainly not $1,500.
If you were anything like I was, take into account how addicted and in love with the game you were in 2000. Now imagine that you are an adult with expendable income. Loramin, I’m willing to wager that it was more a more common occurrence than you may think.

[Amyas]

I wish there was no boxing and that they would stop at lucin

[Bleepo]

Don't project your own server's issue onto our GMs. Wasn't it one of your co-founders that gave himself several million plat and started changing items he had on his warrior, which then forced you to roll back the server and close it for several days? http://forums.gatesoftime.com/viewto...2&t=493&p=1272

Your conspiracy theories are just an excuse for your absolute failure in Luclin/Ssra, and everyone on P2002 knows that. When you ran off to make your own server, it failed just as miserably as your guild did on P2002. On top of that, nobody cared that you left. In your overinflated self importance, you somehow made yourself believe that the biggest zerg guild leaving would cripple the server, but the fact is most of your people either came back or moved on to TLP because everyone saw that your own sandbox server was just a means to nerf all the content in the ground to a point where your "skilled raid core" could finally beat it.

Changing DB values is a logical step when content needs to be fixed/corrected. On your server, however you do it whenever things are too difficult. Keep spinning though, I'll get my popcorn.

[Pope Hat]

I'm not sure who you think I am. I don't care about your petty grievances with other guilds on your crap server.

Why doesn't P02 have a count of the number of people logged on anymore? Your GM said that it was an issue he was having with the counter. So two possibilities exist - either he is an idiot that cannot fix something so simple as a log on counter, or your population is so low that he is embarrassed by it. (Which I think is silly personally, as I've never found a low pop to be something to be embarrassed by) The counter disappeared right after the exodus happened. He was a sad panda that the server hit 20 people during prime time so he took it down.

I'm not talking about changing DB items because of bugs or errors, I'm talking about him changing DB things like drop % or the size of a faction hit from mobs to benefit some and to the detriment of others. He allowed some players on the server to farm KT faction incredibly quickly by making the faction hit for the dorfs in Icewell huge. They got max KT faction in a matter of minutes. This is why P02 Allaclone is no longer "open", you cannot see faction numbers and some other information anymore on it because of this GM and those that he allowed to abused it. The two GMs that left because of this individual were still around at the time and they were the ones that made the change to the clone. He did similar things with the mob that drops Remove Curse just as soon as Luclin came out, allowing some to get many copies quickly. As soon as the people that he wanted to have RC had the spell memmed (and a few copies to sell, of course!) he changed the spawn time so that others could not get the spell nearly as fast. Oh, and he threatened to ban anyone that camped the spell before he made the last change - except for his buddies, of course.

Pathetic.

[Jhaerik]

Originally Posted by Pope Hat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure who you think I am. I don't care about your petty grievances with other guilds on your crap server.

Why doesn't P02 have a count of the number of people logged on anymore? Your GM said that it was an issue he was having with the counter. So two possibilities exist - either he is an idiot that cannot fix something so simple as a log on counter, or your population is so low that he is embarrassed by it. (Which I think is silly personally, as I've never found a low pop to be something to be embarrassed by) The counter disappeared right after the exodus happened. He was a sad panda that the server hit 20 people during prime time so he took it down.

I'm not talking about changing DB items because of bugs or errors, I'm talking about him changing DB things like drop % or the size of a faction hit from mobs to benefit some and to the detriment of others. He allowed some players on the server to farm KT faction incredibly quickly by making the faction hit for the dorfs in Icewell huge. They got max KT faction in a matter of minutes. This is why P02 Allaclone is no longer "open", you cannot see faction numbers and some other information anymore on it because of this GM and those that he allowed to abused it. The two GMs that left because of this individual were still around at the time and they were the ones that made the change to the clone. He did similar things with the mob that drops Remove Curse just as soon as Luclin came out, allowing some to get many copies quickly. As soon as the people that he wanted to have RC had the spell memmed (and a few copies to sell, of course!) he changed the spawn time so that others could not get the spell nearly as fast. Oh, and he threatened to ban anyone that camped the spell before he made the last change - except for his buddies, of course.

Pathetic.

It's literally listed on p2002.com.

"Players Online: 295"

I don't know why people insist on corruption... or some mythical tiny population.
If you want to talk about corruption let's talk about p99 loot councils...

[Bleepo]

Player counter has been working fine, so either you're just trolling, are plain dumb or are angry at an entirely different server. Pathetic.

Plenty of guilds were able to kill Emperor BTW. Illuminati confirmed

[Pope Hat]

Originally Posted by Bleepo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Player counter has been working fine

This proves you joined the server after any of this happened. All I'm trying to do is warn people (like you) that the deck is stacked against you on P02.

[Tollen]

Originally Posted by Pope Hat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This proves you joined the server after any of this happened. All I'm trying to do is warn people (like you) that the deck is stacked against you on P02.

Player counter was only down for month and been working fine so get over yourself.

All that you say are 3rd/4th hand account from disgruntled players that couldn't cut it.

[Bleepo]

Originally Posted by Pope Hat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This proves you joined the server after any of this happened. All I'm trying to do is warn people (like you) that the deck is stacked against you on P02.

I was there when it happened in the first row with a bucket of popcorn. I was actually leveling in the Grey with some friends when <Powerslave> ran past us to kill your Emperor because you guys were unable to do so. To this day I don't really understand why they agreed to rotate Emperor with you before you were even capable of killing him.

When they saw your zerg raidforce was nowhere near ready to get to Emp in the allotted timeframe, they just casually strolled in there and took it from you. And when that happened you all threw a big temper tantrum, blamed it on the GMs, and left with your tail between your legs. I am sorry to break it to you but the P99 forums aren't the best place to get sympathy for not being able to compete for raid content [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You left screaming and lying in an attempt to hurt the server, which didn't work. Now you are here on the P99 forums screaming and lying to do the same. Don't deny it

[Swish2]

Sounds like a great community over on Project 2002 full of nice players.