The Resist System Balance Thread

[Macken]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here comes the inevitable Macken whine posts. All the stuff I posted is an enormous bonus to casters in comparison to EQ live. Don't compare what I posted to the delusional world of TZVZ where whirl till you hurl works in PvP because this server isn't TZVZ. If you can't even come up with a resist alternative yourself, you have no right to whine either.

You also tried to claim "There is no los check at end of casting". Once again, this isn't the TZVZ server that nobody wants to play on. Nobody wants to play on a server where 6 mages port into a dungeon, invis to your camp spot, nuke everyone to death in 3 seconds, then gate out. I was in the guild that did that all day for god's sake. Caster's aren't supposed to dominate outdoors and inside dungeons at the same time. I don't know anyone stupid enough except you to try and claim wizard stuns should last the full 8 second duration either while also hitting for 750 damage.

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I don't need to come up with an alternate resists system complete with graphs to remind everyone that you are a dumbass who is trying to re-invent history to make up for your weakness. All i need to do is remind everyone that no one ever resisted any spell 100% of the time, and all your fail graphs showing fail ideas and lies about yesteryear are kaput.

And furthermore, It doesn't matter what words you try to put in my mouth. No one is fooled. Of course there was no end of cast los check in pvp on SZ live nor on VZTZ. I am not aware that anyone besides you is confused enough to think there ever was on live SZ or anywhere else in pvp for that matter. So i will save that flame for if anyone is as ignorant as you.

Lastly, I never said anything about 8 second stun time. But you sure did. It wasn't like that on VZTZ despite your assertions it was. But since you brought up the fact that 8 seconds is the actual original spell description, then i guess it will have to be implemented because that is what this server is about right? Original pvp?

Thanks for making a great point.

[Koota]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is it just "ok"? Even if you had 160FR completely unbuffed (who has that during kunark?), one malo takes you to 115FR (even if you had 55FR druid buff up), then all base nukes are -25mod to lower it even further to 90FR. You would fully resist standard nukes 70% of the time and resist draughts 45% of the time.

This is nowhere near to classic. If you want a Project1999 PvP server, I'd suggest sticking somewhere to 1999. Resisting ANY NUKE except for MR based one was something that was RARELY obtainable unless your resists were in 150+. Even then, I will reiterate, it was rare. Magic based nukes, however, were easier to resist. And no, I am not going to create a graph to solidify my point. But with the system you are proposing, you are making it so any melee with stacked resists has a chance to fully resist nukes that shouldn't be able to be resisted easily.

If a wizard gets their draughts resisted nearly half, and their Ice Comets resisted 75% of the time, you now have a broken class that nobody is going to play. Everyone is going to roll Shadow Knights, Warriors, and Rogues.

My suggestion would be to do some research on the PvP servers back in 1999 and try to mirror a system closely to that, as it's likely going to inspire a solid implementation by the P99 staff. Not some system that you think will better make melees awesome.

[Macken]

Originally Posted by Koota [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If a wizard gets their draughts resisted nearly half, and their Ice Comets resisted 75% of the time, you now have a broken class that nobody is going to play. Everyone is going to roll Shadow Knights, Warriors, and Rogues.
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Don't forget his target class--Monk

The sad part is he doesn't care. He goes on and about some guild on VZTZ that tore him a new asshole, crying about they don't care about balance or long term server viability.

Then he follows it up with this crap. I understand when you are beat down constantly by weaker classes, that it can get to your psyche. But being #1 on an empty server isn't what you think it will be wehrmacht.

[Macken]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stuns landed 0% of the time on EQ live PvP servers.

For the 2nd time, if you're too dumb to even come up with your own resist system to post, don't cry like a girl to people that do post one.

You are an absolute moron who can't figure out that everyone knows you were horrible at EQ and are making up stuff to make your life easier without caring that you are trying to horribly skew pvp towards melee where it already is anyway.

And no one needs to do anything beyond remembering what it was like vs. what you wish it was like.

Go ahead and write a thesis with false assertions and 1000 graphs. I'll tear it all down and render it obsolete in 15 seconds, all the while revealing you for the fool you are.

Just as a warning, I think you are about to, or already have de-throned some major forum morons. If you keep it up, you just might be #1 in something eq related.

[Foxx]

pretty sure when someone has good enough gear like u say, landing mala line of spells is going to be real difficult, until shamans/mages get the unresistable one at like 58 or 60 or whatever level it is..

and then again, u do know mala and malo can be dispelled right? i heard keeping ur top buff slot open is hard tho

[Foxx]

for level 60 pvp lures were rarely used in kunark, only when fighting the TOP geared players (only a handful of people, seriously prob less than 10), but were basically the only dd spells used in velious era pvp for wizards

edit: or if they hard a bard in group, or raid buffed with GMR and circles etc

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Foxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

for level 60 pvp lures were rarely used in kunark, only when fighting the TOP geared players (only a handful of people, seriously prob less than 10), but were basically the only dd spells used in velious era pvp for wizards

Nobody landed shit on me with just 120mr and 120FR during Kunark and Velious. That's why it's hilarious how people were trying to claim what I posted on the first page is somehow a "nerf" for casters. I'll go ahead and lower resists even more just so I don't have to listen to all the Macken whines.

[Koota]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody landed shit on me with just 120mr and 120FR during Kunark and Velious. That's why it's hilarious how people were trying to claim what I posted on the first page is somehow a "nerf" for casters. I'll go ahead and lower resists even more just so I don't have to listen to all the Macken whines.

So now you were 100% resistant with 120 MR and 120 FR? I don't think anyone will even need proof to know that you're way wrong here, too.

[Macken]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody landed shit on me with just 120mr and 120FR during Kunark and Velious. That's why it's hilarious how people were trying to claim what I posted on the first page is somehow a "nerf" for casters. I'll go ahead and lower resists even more just so I don't have to listen to all the Macken whines.

Hey bro, maybe it's just you don't understand we all played eq too. Maybe, that knowledge will help you understand you aren't fooling anyone when you say you resisted everything with 120 in classic, kunark , and velious or any expansion for that matter.

The only thing that is hilarious is that you think we don't already know you are lieing.

[Macken]

3 people in just your own thread alone have confirmed you are wrong AGAIN about LoS.

sup? wut?