Awakened 30 day

[Troxx]

Seriously though ... how much sever drama would be avoided and CSR intervention would become obsolete if you had to engage all TOV dragons close to spawn? Big guilds would have to decide if launching a full scale raid would be worth it for 1-2 minor named thus leaving it possibly open for others. Multiple raids would not be at risk for training each other (accidentally or otherwise) in fighting close to spawn.

This server has already implemented much less classic mechanisms. I'm pretty sure the Verant Devs intended you to fight ToV shit in the respective wing it spawns.

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously though ... how much sever drama would be avoided and CSR intervention would become obsolete if you had to engage all TOV dragons close to spawn? Big guilds would have to decide if launching a full scale raid would be worth it for 1-2 minor named thus leaving it possibly open for others. Multiple raids would not be at risk for training each other (accidentally or otherwise) in fighting close to spawn.

This server has already implemented much less classic mechanisms. I'm pretty sure the Verant Devs intended you to fight ToV shit in the respective wing it spawns.

People have been asking for this for a long time, and I'm pretty sure the bosses were rooted in their spawn rooms on live. What we have right now is NOT classic.

[Ket]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guilds will die before they crawl ToV weekly for single dragons.

I dunno - sounds more like a pro, than a con.

[Spyder73]

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[spanky_kc]

Irony that you guys got suspended for training around Eashen Hallway, when you sent in fraps of myself w/ an accidental train on franswa w/ no contesting targets and I got suspended. Reap what you sow. Just sucks that they did not suspend the person but the entire guild. Server is dumb now anyways. Hopefully when Pantheon comes out we will all be friends =P

But I agree 30 days is just plain dumb. I was quite excited for the return of Quean as well.

[Tura]

Not going to read through all the shit I'm sure this post contains, but just wanted to make an appearance to make a few points that will hopefully fall on some ears willing to listen.

1) Yes, 30 days is absurd and it's going to be rough. No, it's not the end of the world, or the end of us. Despite what most of you A/A haters believe, many of us do have families, jobs and other things outside of EQ that occupy our time. March=Spring Break, so at least there's that. We'll be fine. The real question is whether p99 is a server worth playing on anymore.

2) We're not perfect. I laughed and stopped reading this thread as soon as I saw the disparaging comments to Opmeter's apology. You guys can spin this any way you want, but the truth is that it was an honest mistake and 100% of what Opmeter said is true. These things happen commonly in ToV between A/A. The difference is that we don't petition each other over everything. Hell, if we do try to petition we get raid suspended for that anyway, too. Sorry to burst your bubble of the delusion that we sit at our computers 12 hours a day trying to screw other guilds over. I've watched many of our officers/members bend over backwards in most cases to extend an olive branch and work with other guilds.

3) We like competition. Sorry, but pulling and killing dragons on it's own is just not challenging. If you're in a guild where it's never been done, sure it's exciting for a short while, but trust me, it will lose its appeal and you will struggle to get people on to continue killing the same dragons in the same boring way.

Competition is healthy and despite a somewhat bitter rivalry between Awakened and Aftermath, it's the competition that drives us in most cases. But it would seem that this 'competition' is being choked out with +10day suspensions for just about anything GMs can find.

If I'm not mistaken, the only reason CSG even had a shot at Eashen was because A/A both had to concede it for tracker FTE. I hear so much complaining about the A/A duopoly of end game content, yet most of you in other guilds could compete in the exact same way if you wanted to.

Seems to me like a further push for a fully rotated raid scene.

[RedXIII]

Pity reply.

Fingerz and Eratani nailed this.

Thanks for all my aftermeth pals and others who think this is way to much for something stupid. I mean, we concede the mob? You want me to pull it for you, DPS it down and make-up sex after?

I hope Rogean/Nilbog comes back to care about this server... Because sadly the GM's who deal with petition and raid stuff we got never raided in their lifes and have absolutely no fucking clue what they are doing.

A/A is the evil, anything else gets away with whatever they do. Killing mobs with no new FTE, stalling, kite, train... whatever you can do it ALL as long as you don't have a A/A guildtag.

To my Aftermeth pals, make me proud and dominate this 30days. When we back, lets tango again, its been fun! <3

[Loke]

Originally Posted by RedXIII [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pity reply.

Fingerz and Eratani nailed this.

Thanks for all my aftermeth pals and others who think this is way to much for something stupid. I mean, we concede the mob? You want me to pull it for you, DPS it down and make-up sex after?

I hope Rogean/Nilbog comes back to care about this server... Because sadly the GM's who deal with petition and raid stuff we got never raided in their lifes and have absolutely no fucking clue what they are doing.

A/A is the evil, anything else gets away with whatever they do. Killing mobs with no new FTE, stalling, kite, train... whatever you can do it ALL as long as you don't have a A/A guildtag.

To my Aftermeth pals, make me proud and dominate this 30days. When we back, lets tango again, its been fun! <3

Never thought I'd agree with you about something, but think you hit the nail on the head here. I don't know how anyone expects the server policy or staff enforcement of it to get better, when the staff have made themselves immune to public criticism. I certainly had my occasional complaints back in the day when Rogean was running the show, but dude understood the game and always seemed to be seeking a fair resolution. He also actually rewarded guilds for working shit out, as opposed to rewarding them for running to him with all their problems.

His ego also wasn't so fragile that he had to institute a forum wide gag order.

Disclaimer: This was not meant to "bash" the current staff, but praise the previous staff. Also, if I am bashing anything, it is a policy, not the staff themselves.

[kotton05]

https://youtu.be/eZIVQ79mJ9I

leaving this here for anyone who questions the staffs decisions

[Vorkon]

Early ToV you had Rampage, Forsaken/Asgard and BDA in an absolute train fest at Eashan/Ikitair as guilds were tripping all each other trying to get to Aaryonar.

With updated rules, 2 trackers per wing, no one allowed past the stairs unless a mob is up. This is what you end up with. It was a little bit easier when Rampage was at LTK and F/A was at zone in. Due to changes though you now have everyone bottle-necked at the entrance and cubby's. Unless something major happens with how repops/respawns and raid rules are, I doubt you see any NToV crawls for mobs.