Request for a different policy on (game-changing) specific item camps

[Cars]

Originally Posted by Nagash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you knew what kind of coordination, persistence and intense time dedication it took the Nazi regime to try to exterminate millions of people... You see where I'm getting at, your statement holds no ground whatsoever.

Nagash/Petitpas

your comparing holding an item camp... to gear up guildies and friends... to nazi germany???

[Kika Maslyaka]

best solution to KS was in EQ2 - once you pull something, the encounter would lock on you/your group/raid.
Anyone else who attempts to do damage to mob, will receive - "this target is invulnerable" message

[Chrushev]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

best solution to KS was in EQ2 - once you pull something, the encounter would lock on you/your group/raid.
Anyone else who attempts to do damage to mob, will receive - "this target is invulnerable" message

i hated that about EQ2.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Chrushev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i hated that about EQ2.

only a KSer/exploiter would hate that feature [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[beaon]

The solution is to ignore the items in question. They aren't worth your time/energy. You can be l33t without them. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only a KSer/exploiter would hate that feature [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Complete non-sequitur.

[Lazortag]

Okay, a lot of really bad arguments were made in this thread.

Originally Posted by DoucLangur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People without a guild, or guilds not big (or crazy) enough to keep a camp locked will not get a chance on the camp until whoever has it locked grows tired of it. At the same time, people in that guild do not have to invest any single minute in the zone without actually being in the camp.

I find that highly unfair, ...

This is silly. Any large group of people among whom there's mutual trust can do the same thing, whether they identify as a guild or not. I think that establishing friendly relations with lots of people is something that ought to be encouraged in eq. I see no problem with the fact that the game rewards people who have connections, while punishing people who don't. This is a huge aspect of the game.

Originally Posted by mwatt

I agree that the current situation is untenable. What these guilds are dong is greedy and mean-spirited, made more so because one of the items that is locked down is not going to be available forever. ...

Realize that some people will never get access to a locket of escape, or a guise of the deceiver, or lustrous russet, etc. for a variety of reasons, one being that they may have just joined the server later than everybody else. What kind of warped sense of fairness is it that everyone should have an opportunity to get these items? That's nonsense. Live never had any guarantee like that. If something as small as joining the server earlier can be a legitimate means by which to gain an advantage over others, then how is it illegitimate that the rules privilege those who've worked to be trusted by hundreds of people with the same guild tag, something that's actually noteworthy?

Originally Posted by mwatt

The first thing that should be done is that the reputations of these guilds should be considered tarnished. ...

I think this is completely out of line. You need to actually prove that there's something condemnable about the behaviour of the guilds who hold the camp. You also need to show that it's impossible for someone not affiliated with these "Big Guilds" (tm) to ever get access to these camps. The camp in question has changed hands several times already. I'm pretty sure the guild that currently has it just found it unattended (unless I'm just remembering wrong), and did what anyone else would have done. Are you honestly saying that if you had 40 friends on project 1999 (guilded or otherwise) that you wouldn't prefer to keep such an important camp between them?

How long are locket/CoS going to be in the game anyway? From what I understand all of the people in this thread will have a chance to legitimately camp one before it gets taken out, making this a non-issue. Unless the concern is that you'll have to wait longer than the Big Guilds have to, but that seems kind of petty.

[Sephrana]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only a KSer/exploiter would hate that feature [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or ya know....someone trying to HELP the group if they got in trouble.....

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Sephrana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or ya know....someone trying to HELP the group if they got in trouble.....

for this purpose they have /yell option =)
It will unlock the encounter, and allow people from outside deal dmg to a mob

[Icaro]

Less farming, more action!

[baalzy]

So people justify acting like dicks because other people may be acting like dicks too?