Ruining EQ

[Mytral]

Originally Posted by Bugaman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From a perspective of a raider who has been around for every A/A velious era ban, this thread or Idea that CSG is "ruining EQ" is either for the seriously uniformed or those who are completely new to the P99 raid scene.

Trolls... You forgot the trolls. People who know the truth, have been around forever to know better, but just love stirring the pot. i really don't care about those people since trolls are gunna troll. Hopefully light can shine on the truth so that those that are new to the P99 raid scene can make an honest and informed opinion.

[bilirubin]

Originally Posted by Bugaman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For those who still think CSG is the new A/A for the next 17 days this is what you sound like: "CSG left us mobs to kill, man I hate those guys"

[Sadiki]

sigh

Neither group of people enjoy the rules, but both parties knew them, and only one abided by them. I'd hope Sirken would intervene if our officers were doing that too. Waiting around for a 12 hour window for CSG to violate the rule and report them, then knowingly breaking the rule afterwards hoping you won't caught... this is the kind of stuff this server does not need. I don't understand the need to generate all this toxicity and hate. I would go out of my way to respond to every request for help on Lord Bob targets, be cordial with everyone, now I am berated constantly and lies are spread just because I'm AG tagged. The second A/A got banned, the strategy to get targets went from getting along to rulebreaking and petitionquesting. I don't get it. I guess an established 5 year old alliance taking down a mob they almost never get to kill is a crime, for some reason, because someone said it is.

CSG left targets up despite members wanting to raid them, including classic/Kunark mobs, WToV, Ikiatar, Lady N, and triplets. We didn't raid for an entire day of a ban just so we would abide by the raid rule that you can't be in NToV during the Lady M spawn. All we were focused on was attempting Vulak. It's difficult to negotiate targets to anyone the instant a ban hits, and it's unrealistic to randomly give up the first Vulak of a 20 day ban to the force that needed help with Wuoshi and has failed to kill several other easier targets. Two potential quakes could happen at any time, Vulak was just sitting there, and is a very rare opportunity for us that we know we can succeed at (well, eventually, that raid didn't go too well). CSG is mostly full of bright eyed casuals as well. It's really easy to get outraged over everything without thinking about the situation, and it's worse when you are being fed lies constantly from haters. CSG isn't attempting to contest most of the mobs that people are screaming we were forming up to steal. Lady M however is different, and we did nothing for like 20 hours just to not violate a silly rule so we could kill her.

I hope people can be level headed and maybe start getting along at some point... but I'm not betting on it. Instant-outrage culture is just too prevalent nowadays.

[spanky_kc]

Nice Rotation of mobs...Bugaman! You guys are so nice to share all those mobs your normally kill for your quarterly free pixel rain in ToV. The A/A's leave up Telk,Gozz Ikitar all the time. I wonder why no one ever comes and kills them....

[Bugaman]

Originally Posted by spanky_kc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The A/A's leave up Telk,Gozz Ikitar all the time. I wonder why no one ever comes and kills them....

If that was true we'd have alot more loot in guild from those 3 mobs.


Also this rotation is just for this Cycle. More rotations to come during the mob, more mobs and chances at new content to be given out... Did I mention Lord BoB failed repeated at Dain for over 5 hours, Also PS may have gotten Yeli this cycle but last ban we watched them bang their head against that wall for like 6 hours or more before they asked us to come in and kill it. Cheers tho, nice attempt at derailing my perfectly reasonable post. Bottom line, A/A doesn't share shit. To say otherwise is to be in denial.

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by spanky_kc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice Rotation of mobs...Bugaman! You guys are so nice to share all those mobs your normally kill for your quarterly free pixel rain in ToV. The A/A's leave up Telk,Gozz Ikitar all the time. I wonder why no one ever comes and kills them....

Do they? Every time I've parked in ToV to get timers, Telk and Gozz are pulled within minutes of spawning. Would love to know next time A/A are going to leave them up.

[Heebs13]

Originally Posted by spanky_kc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nice Rotation of mobs...Bugaman! You guys are so nice to share all those mobs your normally kill for your quarterly free pixel rain in ToV. The A/A's leave up Telk,Gozz Ikitar all the time. I wonder why no one ever comes and kills them....

Double post, but I should probably point out CSG does NOT normally kill Gozz, Iki, or Telk. We have killed those mobs maybe twice in the last year, and we have plenty of mains who could use gear from them.

[Pokesan]

clearing trash is classic

go play wow snowflake

[Phenyo]

Ur trash GOTEM

[Lulz~Sect]

It's a real shame the end game gets so rules lawyer-ery/cutthroat/etc. like this. Very happy I never got into serious raiding on Live/Emu. ~Filthy Casual 4 lyfe~

Though, I suppose this is one of the things that some would argue makes EverQuest great. Not everyone wins a shiny.

Still, how would adventuring and this play off in a real fantasy world? I always felt that the game would be better left un-policed and let players sort it out.