Merriam-Webster Word of the Year 2017

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if ever there is to be equality we must first acknowledge disparity and only thereafter may we celebrate diversity.

Originally Posted by kb2005 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't do that if you don't acknowledge that differences exist.

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

which school of feminism is it that says the sexes are identical?

i'd love to know

Exactly. Feminism means equal treatment, not "pretend both genders are identical". Now to be fair:

Feminism = equal treatment for all genders ... which does not mean pretending that the inherent biological differences between those genders do not exist

doesn't fit well on a bumper sticker or protest sign, so I can see how that might lead to confusion.

However, you will not find a sane feminist anywhere who says you should ignore biological differences. Just take the issue of public bathrooms: men move through them faster because of their biology and the magic technology of urinals. Feminists want more female public bathrooms to account for the biological differences. They don't want an equal number of bathrooms, with urinals in both.

Same thing with maternity leave/paternity leave. No feminist is saying "men have to push a baby out, they need time off". They're just saying "hey, there's a lot more to this whole baby-rearing thing than just the 'pushing out' part, and men should get the same opportunity for involvement in that as women".

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Same thing with maternity leave/paternity leave. No feminist is saying "men have to push a baby out, they need time off". They're just saying "hey, there's a lot more to this whole baby-rearing thing than just the 'pushing out' part, and men should get the same opportunity for involvement in that as women".

What they do in Sweden is give father only-leave to encourage dads to spend time raising the kids (instead of the mother sometimes).

They understand if they want an equality-based society they need to subsidize that.

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In America, we talk equality...or we talk traditionally family values. But when push comes to shove -- the market takes precedence over either one. We don't use the government to support equality or the traditional family. We just let the market pay women less because they have to take time off to have/raise kids. We just let men pull ahead and don't encourage them to help with child rearing. We also don't give mothers checks for having children like in Germany. This encourages them to stay home and have kids instead of working for a more traditional society.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What they do in Sweden is give father only-leave to encourage dads to spend time raising the kids (instead of the mother sometimes).

They understand if they want an equality-based society they need to subsidize that.

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In America, we talk equality...or we talk traditionally family values. But when push comes to shove -- the market takes precedence over either one. We don't use the government to support equality or the traditional family. We just let the market pay women less because they have to take time off to have/raise kids. We just let men pull ahead and don't encourage them to help with child rearing. We also don't give mothers checks for having children like in Germany. This encourages them to stay home and have kids instead of working for a more traditional society.

Take the WE out of your post and replace it with I.

None of what you say is relevant in my life at all.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What they do in Sweden is give father only-leave to encourage dads to spend time raising the kids (instead of the mother sometimes).

They understand if they want an equality-based society they need to subsidize that.

Attachment 9189

In America, we talk equality...or we talk traditionally family values. But when push comes to shove -- the market takes precedence over either one. We don't use the government to support equality or the traditional family. We just let the market pay women less because they have to take time off to have/raise kids. We just let men pull ahead and don't encourage them to help with child rearing. We also don't give mothers checks for having children like in Germany. This encourages them to stay home and have kids instead of working for a more traditional society.

this somewhat alludes to the gender wage gap, where there are two arguments talking past each other.

1. equal pay for the same work. i think this is law in most of the west.
2. an equal share of the wealth generation between the sexes, in a broad societal sense.

Most agree with the first, though there is an argument for the second in addressing declining birth rates among certain demographics.

[Rader]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this somewhat alludes to the gender wage gap, where there are two arguments talking past each other.

1. equal pay for the same work. i think this is law in most of the west.
2. an equal share of the wealth generation between the sexes, in a broad societal sense.

Most agree with the first, though there is an argument for the second in addressing declining birth rates among certain demographics.

Your premise is false. The Left wants equal pay. Period. Work or no work. And even then, white straight males need to pay reparations to make up for historical systemic prejudice that will take centuries to purge.

[Raavak]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We just let men pull ahead and don't encourage them to help with child rearing.

This is slowly changing. I know several fathers who stayed home and their wife worked.

I don't see it ever getting to 50/50, and therefore, this will always be a sore spot with some women.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What they do in Sweden is give father only-leave to encourage dads to spend time raising the kids (instead of the mother sometimes).

They understand if they want an equality-based society they need to subsidize that.

Attachment 9189

In America, we talk equality...or we talk traditionally family values. But when push comes to shove -- the market takes precedence over either one. We don't use the government to support equality or the traditional family. We just let the market pay women less because they have to take time off to have/raise kids. We just let men pull ahead and don't encourage them to help with child rearing. We also don't give mothers checks for having children like in Germany. This encourages them to stay home and have kids instead of working for a more traditional society.

You know what I think is funny about libtards? here you go in 10 ez steps:

1. you love socialist countries like denmark, germany etc... you love europe, you just love em!
2. you cant get enough of their economy, so strong!
3. you love the enviornment, so you shut down pipelines or fracking or any use of american oil you can!
4. you fail to realize that in europe those countries you love, do not shut down oil, in fact they double down on it and sell it to... CHINA! your least favorite poluter.
5. you dont notice that the goverment gives a large % of that money in those countries, to its citizens, in the form of socialism, to pay for all the things we cant in america, because we are not oil rich exploilters.
6. you hate libertarians! How can a country thrive if local municipalities are passing regional laws?!

7. back to europe... wait a minuet, whats the square milage?

8. holy shit its a bunch of countires with a united dollar, that have LOCAL municipalities rulling absolutly over each individual state in an area about the size of the USA!

9 omgosh maybe if we had libertariansim, youd HAVE europe in america?

10. oh but missisipi would struggle? OH WAIT WHAT ABOUT GREESE?

you see libtards.

what you WANT is libertariansim

What you are fooled into thinking is democratic socialism is actually GLOBALIST control of you and the worlds economy

you want socialism? vote libertarian.

a libertarian america = europe = you can have your cuck states that pay for your healthcare while you dont work and smoke legal weed in the name of utopia.

[bluddyragz]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you fail to realize that in europe those countries you love, do not shut down oil, in fact they double down on it and sell it to... CHINA!

LOL the only country in the EU that produces and exports enough oil to be worth mentioning is the UK and we voted to leave the United States of Europe. EU ain't socialist and they're far from libertarian. They're undemocratic federalist parasitic shylocks.

Still though, if you believe what you hear in the papers they're going to be making an example of us. Oh well, we've been through worse.

[mickmoranis]

its funny how in libtarded states like california and NY the family unit is degrading and less people are having children. did you know in san francisco there are more dogs than there are children?

while in red states church/family are first and you go to bbq's with people of color.

Meanwhile in blue states, there is the mexican bar, for mexicans, the hipster bar for hipsters and the black bars for blacks.

hipsters may set foot into a black bar for either credit, or irony, but they will never set foot in a mexican bar.

And then you go and call every other state racist and bad parents.

Get overyourself.

[mickmoranis]

side note:

to bad the word of the year wasnt net nutrality instead eh?

lolz

you lose