My Theory About Why Feminism is Currently Irrelevent to Millenials

[loramin]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's the current year. Why are you nerds still discussing feminism? An why are you peddling stats from self-selected surveys where "I was drunk, got cum in my eye, and didn't like it" is categorized as rape?

Please read my previous posts. Short version: Rape is penetration of an orifice with at least one sex organ involved. Dildo in butt, penis in mouth, etc. all rape. "I got cum in my eye" is not rape (although I hope we can both agree that jizzing in someone's eye when they don't want or expect it is pretty messed up).

And as for why discus it, are women equal in society yet? No? Then we still need feminism. All feminism is is the belief that "women should be equal to men (modulo biological differences)".

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please read my previous posts. Short version: Rape is penetration of an orifice with at least one sex organ involved. Dildo in butt, penis in mouth, etc. all rape. "I got cum in my eye" is not rape (although I hope we can both agree that jizzing in someone's eye when they don't want or expect it is pretty mes
And as for why discus it, are women equal in society yet? No? Then we still need feminism. All feminism is is the belief that "women should be equal to men (modulo biological differences)".

1. Your statistic is not based on your opinion of what that statistic is.
2. Explain to me how women are not equal in America?

[fash]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And as for why discus it, are women equal in society yet? No? Then we still need feminism. All feminism is is the belief that "women should be equal to men (modulo biological differences)".

Yea, in the 1960s with 2nd wave feminism. That's completed.

Your dictionary definition of feminism is not today's 4th wave feminism, which is largely about intersectionality (aka oppression olympics), patriarchy theory, sexual objectification (both normal biological behavior), trigger warnings, micro-aggressions (both infantilization), etc. Look at critiques of modern feminism by some of the old guard feminists like Camille Paglia or Christina Hoff Sommers (trigger warning: they are both crazy feminists).

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

serious question, do you genuinely not understand my argument or are you purposely misconstruing it? i only ask because you continue to present counterarguments unrelated to my argument.

"Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." Honestly I thought my posts did respond to your's.

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ill indulge whatever other topic you want from mass adoptions to cleans the world of racism to assimilation of immigrant populations if we can actually discuss the original topic. if not, I'll drop it ^^

Did you not say:

You think discrimination leads disproportionate numbers of blacks to prison? Adopt black children

er ... well ... I guess not, because now that post has been edited to instead say:

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you think various races are inferior to one another? write a book.

... which I certainly can't disagree with.

But look, it's already a long thread, so if you just clarify what your "original topic" was, to eliminate any confusion, then I promise I'll do my best to honestly respond to it.

[mickmoranis]

so far weve learned that john lasseter hugging you is rape, or a friend asking to masterbate infront of you, is rape.

So I think those numbers are bullshit.

Lor, LCK DID NOT WIP HIS DICK OUT when are you going to get that through your polarbear head?

He asked, "hey, would it be possible, idk, if maybe, do you think, it'd be cool if i.. masterbated infront of you?"

which is OK TO ASK a woman at a bar youve been hanging out drinking with, that goes back to your fucking room with you.

And to be clear, that is what those women were: women, who were also comedians, didnt work with him, hanging out a bar, with someone they thought was cool, drinking.

If they said, no he said, OK and ended it there.

Do you get it yet? It is the definition of consent.

He had no ability to give people work, the same way if I met another person who did the same job as I did at a bar would. For christ sakes women and feminists, have no clue how the world works, which is why they get payed less... not because they are a women.. its because you and peope like them are fucking retards that accept being payed less, cus they have NO IDEA how to work in any environment outside of a part time job.

Next time you see a fesminst post on your facebook feed, ask yourself, what type of job does that person have? My guess is a very low paying one, or none at all.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so far weve learned that john lasseter hugging you is rape, or a friend asking to masterbate infront of you, is rape.

So I think those numbers are bullshit.

I was using the "standard" (rape laws vary a lot by state) definition, ie. penetration of any orifice against a person's will (with at least one sex organ involved).

Got an unwanted finger in your mouth? Not rape. But an unwanted penis is. Similarly an unwanted dildo in your vagina or finger in your butt is also rape. But unwanted hugging is not rape, nor is masturbating in front of someone.

As for:

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

THATS WHAT THOSE WOMEN WERE.. women, who were also comedians, hanging out a bar, with someone theyh thought were cool, drinking.

Do you get it yet?

Let's hear another version:

Originally Posted by New York Times

In 2002, a Chicago comedy duo, Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov, landed their big break: a chance to perform at the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival in Aspen, Colo. When Louis C.K. invited them to hang out in his hotel room for a nightcap after their late-night show, they did not think twice. The bars were closed and they wanted to celebrate. He was a comedian they admired. The women would be together. His intentions seemed collegial.

As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.

They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”

In 2003, Abby Schachner called Louis C.K. to invite him to one of her shows, and during the phone conversation, she said, she could hear him masturbating as they spoke. Another comedian, Rebecca Corry, said that while she was appearing with Louis C.K. on a television pilot in 2005, he asked if he could masturbate in front of her. She declined.

Definitely not rape ... but definitely not cool either.

[mickmoranis]

that last quote is a lie. Also see the above, where your statistic is a lie as well.

[Patriam1066]

"Somebody's doing the raping."

-Donald Trump

[mickmoranis]

one of the things people dont tell you about when it comes to equality is that men will spend 30% of their paycheck on their spouse and women will spend 10% so the pay gap is necessary (even though it is a myth and doesn't exist)

[Tnair]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

one of the things people dont tell you about when it comes to equality is that men will spend 30% of their paycheck on their spouse and women will spend 10% so the pay gap is necessary (even though it is a myth and doesn't exist)

Part of the financial inequality has to do with expectations of professionalism, too.

My wife has to spend an hour putting on makeup and doing her hair, and spend about $100-150 a month on products that work to do so, or *everyone will ask her all day if she's ok* and she's *not* automatically considered "professional" enough to be the manager she is. People's opinion of her looks, both men and women, strongly affects her career options. Strangers feel comfortable telling her what they think of her makeup or not makeup, because everyone still assumes that a woman's looks are for everyone.

Meanwhile I got promoted to manager wearing goodwill sweaters and five-year-old combat boots. All I have to do is shave and use shampoo.