Ninja looted by Zoolex

[Nagash]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it's really not. Every single person in the group, including the druid, knew it was NBG. There are three different group members, Zoolex not included, that have posted in this thread saying exactly that. In the screenshot, the druid defends his roll on the basis of NBG. Everyone knew it was NBG.

Then NBG it was. By the way, can you clarify how you know this druid didn't need it? Where you in his mind or something? If he reckons he needs it (as long as he can use it) then he needs it and is entitled to roll on it, end of story. I'm not aware of anyone on the server who would have been granted some kind of supreme decisive power enabling them to decide for others what they are allowed to need or want. Did I miss something?

You mentionned Democracy in page 5, yet you want to instigate a system where some can decide the needs of others... You also seem to be a very proud citizen of the USA (nothing wrong with that) so may I ask you a question: were you involved in any way, shape or form into determining the foreign policy of your previous President because I certainly see some similarities between your way of thinking? I guess you weren't and simply didn't realise how incoherent what you wrote was. I'll stop this point right here as I suspect it is more appropriate for the Off Topic forum and I don't want to derail Justin's post.

Back to the topic: tell you what, I'd bet my shirt that if I track Zoolex and inspect him, he doesn't wear the ring.

I'll second two things that have been said:
First it's CAWU or FFA (I don't remember seeing NBG in a group until way later in EQ, don't ruin my Classic experience :P)
Secondly, remember PUG = Thug, Mate = Donate

From this last point, I can only conclude that:
- Zoolex is a thug (or a ninja if that makes any semantic difference in this context)
- You guys didn't abide by your own way of thinking: why rolling if you reckon you're not entitled to it? It's pretty easy to try to make it look good afterward by saying you were rolling for Zoolex. Maybe you were, maybe you weren't. I tend to believe the later.
- Justin, you have been a fool but hey ho, at least you learned a lesson the hard way: don't try to mix PUB and any form of NBG. If it's droppable, roll fot it but by the same token don't cry if a warrior wins some GEB over you ^_^

Anyway, I'm back to eating some cookies.

Nagash/Petitpas

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Nagash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll second two things that have been said:
First it's CAWU or FFA (I don't remember seeing NBG in a group until way later in EQ, don't ruin my Classic experience :P)
Nagash/Petitpas

It was NBG on Prexus in '99. I have never heard of CAWU but I have heard of FFA.

Asher

[Nagash]

Originally Posted by Nagash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tell you what, I'd bet my shirt that if I track Zoolex and inspect him, he doesn't wear the ring.

Confirmed tonight...

Nagash/Petitpas

[Dantes]

This isn't ninja looting. Ninja looting is sneaky. Like I run into your camp, your mob has been sitting there open, I steal your item and run away. Or, I'm a caster in your group, item drops, I loot, gate, and log. That's ninja. Or I'm a warrior in your group, I loot the item without saying a word and then run to the zone, training the entire way. That's "Jacking Chan" ninja looting because it's comical.

This is another case of somebody claiming they "deserve" the item more than anybody else and keeping it to themselves. It's more like Samurai Looting. Those Samurai are a bunch of high and mighty bastards.

[Juda]

Originally Posted by Dantes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't ninja looting. Ninja looting is sneaky. Like I run into your camp, your mob has been sitting there open, I steal your item and run away. Or, I'm a caster in your group, item drops, I loot, gate, and log. That's ninja. Or I'm a warrior in your group, I loot the item without saying a word and then run to the zone, training the entire way. That's "Jacking Chan" ninja looting because it's comical.

This is another case of somebody claiming they "deserve" the item more than anybody else and keeping it to themselves. It's more like Samurai Looting. Those Samurai are a bunch of high and mighty bastards.

god i hope this is a joke

[nalkin]

My point is that if the logic used in the group is bad enough to state a NBG system, then the logic used by the druid to claim "need" on GER isn't that much of a stretch. Under dumb logic dumb things are possible. Not only that, statistically the ring was more of an upgrade for him and probably a downgrade for the warrior.

A tank who wants outright loot privileges on a ring that is a statistical downgrade is not greedy. But a druid, who has put equal time and effort into the group, who wants a fair roll on the ring is greedy. How?

[Messianic]

I think it's hilarious to say that any player "needs" anything in this game.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's hilarious to say that any player "needs" anything in this game.

If we all ran around naked we wouldn't have this problem.

[Pyroblam]

Originally Posted by Bruno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we all ran around naked we wouldn't have this problem.

Get naked, start revolution. Got it.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Bruno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If we all ran around naked we wouldn't have this problem.

No, but if you consider every non-no drop item a piece of value as opposed to something a certain class "needs" and other classes are just being "greedy" by wanting equal value for their time, you understand why NBG begets abuse.

Originally Posted by Pyroblam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get naked, start revolution. Got it.

I like this idea.