*ATTENTION* PVP PPL

[Bombfist]

Originally Posted by Bombfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just PVE on that game now

well that's a lie actually, we did 12/12 then everyone quit.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by Bombfist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WoW pvp is in a horrible place right now, i logged on wow for 3 minutes after reading this thread, saw my character select screen and wanted to shoot myself in the dick.

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Might as well... By the looks of your character list you aren't getting any use out of it anyways...

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This PvP sounds terrible. What the hell is resilience? Why would damage reduction not be based off AC or armor type instead? Why would a healer have more damage reduction than a tank?

Resilience is a "damage resistant" statistic meant to be for all sources of incoming damage. It was adopted in the burning crusade because people in cloth armor cried about being two shot by melee at close range (duh, winning?)

It works in two ways

It reduces damage from melee, spells, DoTs, and pets by a certain degree

It also reduces the chance to be critically hit by drastically reducing the damage your critical hit does making it more along the lines of a normal attack.

In a sense:

1% Resilience will:

* Reduce damage from all crits by 2.2%
* Reduce all player-caused damage by an additional 2%
* Reduce mana drained by 2.2%


It's especially overpowered because it can stack with AC, resistances, and damage reduction talents and skills, not to mention there are dodge, parry, and block mechanics in place that always have an innate 7.5% and can be stack to be upwards of 28% to go along with the previous resilience.

[Phallax]

L2PvP Abacab, theres not reason a Disc Priest should be able to kill you....Sure you wont be able to kill them but if you were half way talented on how to play your class youd also never die.

I play WoW FOR its pvp. Sure theres some imbalancing but its far more advanced in PvP then EQ could ever hope to be.

I dunno WTF youre doing wrong do only be doing 10k crits with PvE gear lol. Abuse CS before it gets nerfed to shit by half in PvP.

The arguement PvE vs PvP. WoW PvE is NOT fun at all anymore, its watered down so much now its pathetic.

Ill agree with you about one thing Vanilla is where it was at, both PvE and PvP.

[Phallax]

oh and its not easy to get 4k res, only hybrids stacking 2x 2 piece bonus can reach it, or gemming the fuck outta your gear, which not matching sockets is mostly a no no.

[Hasbinbad]

This whole situation makes a lot more sense as we learn that the red team is actually a bunch of Blizzard fan boys..

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Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

..theres some imbalancing but its far more advanced in PvP then EQ could ever hope to be.

You're still you.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

L2PvP Abacab, theres not reason a Disc Priest should be able to kill you....Sure you wont be able to kill them but if you were half way talented on how to play your class youd also never die.

I play WoW FOR its pvp. Sure theres some imbalancing but its far more advanced in PvP then EQ could ever hope to be.

I dunno WTF youre doing wrong do only be doing 10k crits with PvE gear lol. Abuse CS before it gets nerfed to shit by half in PvP.

The arguement PvE vs PvP. WoW PvE is NOT fun at all anymore, its watered down so much now its pathetic.

Ill agree with you about one thing Vanilla is where it was at, both PvE and PvP.

I'll go by this in order

The first point is I'm entirely PvE spec'd I don't have survivability or proper slows and my whole gimmick revolves around a 4 min CD, if you out run that during it's 12 second phase I'm left without burst and an enrage thus regulated to pretty much weak white attacks and blood thirst.

The second point is I could hit her with CS and remove her 23% armor reduction but that doesn't remove resilience, that doesn't focused will, that doesn't remove pain suppression etc... So I'm taking 23% reduction off 91% total without CD's she will still have near 70% damage reduction, and I'm not an arms warrior I can chain throwdown and use deadly calm and superior pressure, I'm fury only thing I can do is run around smashing shit.

Basically 12 seconds out of every 4 minutes I'm an unstoppable force barring that they just stand still and take a BT=> RB rotation, if they LoS, CC, disarm, shiv my enrage etc. I'm worthless at that point because I can't cleave through your resilience without recklessness up. The fact that people in resilience can take 26k DPS and turn it to 3k is a testament of how ridiculously OP resilience is

[Misto]

I suggest you all go outside.

[Oogmog]

Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Resilience is a "damage resistant" statistic meant to be for all sources of incoming damage. It was adopted in the burning crusade because people in cloth armor cried about being two shot by melee at close range (duh, winning?)

It works in two ways

It reduces damage from melee, spells, DoTs, and pets by a certain degree

It also reduces the chance to be critically hit by drastically reducing the damage your critical hit does making it more along the lines of a normal attack.

In a sense:

1% Resilience will:

* Reduce damage from all crits by 2.2%
* Reduce all player-caused damage by an additional 2%
* Reduce mana drained by 2.2%


It's especially overpowered because it can stack with AC, resistances, and damage reduction talents and skills, not to mention there are dodge, parry, and block mechanics in place that always have an innate 7.5% and can be stack to be upwards of 28% to go along with the previous resilience.

Resil hasn't reduced crit in quite some time.

[KilyenaMage]

LOL This is good stuff here.

Hey Tralina, can you shut Naez up next by slaying him in player versus player combat please.